Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Talmud for Eruvin 176:9

אלא לאו ש"מ דר"א בן יעקב היא ש"מ

to R'Eliezer B'Jacob?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' An individual. Sc. why could not R. Zera adopt Rabbah's explanation which would have enabled him to escape this difficulty?');"><sup>21</sup></span> - Raba replied: Our Mishnah presented to him a difficulty: What was the object of stating, IF THE AREA OF A COURTYARD WAS less<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cf. MS.M. The following three words are wanting in cur. edd.');"><sup>22</sup></span> THAN FOUR CUBITS<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which implies that if the total area was four cubits by four it matters little whether each side was four cubits long or whether the courtyard was long and narrow, two of its sides being shorter, and two longer than four cubits.');"><sup>23</sup></span>

Jerusalem Talmud Eruvin

Rebbi Jeremiah said, Rebbi Meïr and Rebbi Eliezer ben Jacob both said the same. Rebbi Eliezer ben Jacob as we have stated: “Rebbi Eliezer ben Jacob says, on the Sabbath one may pour water into a sewer which is covered for four cubits in the public domain, but the Sages are saying, even from a roof or a courtyard 100 cubits [wide] one may not pour into the sewer.” Rebbi Meïr as it was stated: In large cities one may pour water into flows even though they are perforated, the words of Rebbi Meïr140If a river is diverted into many small currents which run in streets and through courtyards (as can be seen, e. g., in Freiburg i. B., Germany), one may pour water into them on the Sabbath since it will not be noticed.. 141The main discussion about prohibitions added because people may get a bad impression, which also includes the text here, is in Kilaim 9:2 (Notes 34–40, Eruvin problem Note 39). Rav’s opinion is accepted in the Babli (Šabbat 64b, 164b, Beṣah 9a, ˋAvodah zarah 12a) but consistently rejected in the Yerushalmi. And it was stated thus, if it was a drainpipe it is permitted; in the rainy season it is permitted142Babli 88b. The Babli holds that during the rainy season there never was any rabbinic prohibition because everything is being wet anyhow.; streaming spouts are forbidden and Bar Qappara stated, if it occurred at a hidden place it is permitted. This disagrees with Rav and he cannot explain it, since Rav said that everything forbidden because of a bad impression is forbidden even in the most private room.
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