Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Talmud for Eruvin 63:16

אמר רבינא רישא בעם הארץ שאמר לחבר סיפא בחבר שאמר לעם הארץ וחבר אחר שומעו רבי

that there is] legal presumption that an agent<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In this case the owner of the fig tree whose duty it is to provide for the proper separation of the prescribed dues.');"><sup>54</sup></span> carries out his mission.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since, even according to R. Simeon b. Gamaliel, had it not been for the consideration that produce and dues must be in close proximity, the owner would have been presumed to have set apart all the prescribed dues.');"><sup>55</sup></span> And R'Nahman?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' How could he maintain his ruling in view of this argument?');"><sup>56</sup></span> - There [the presumption is justified] in agreement [with the principle] of R'Hanina Hoza'ah. For R'Hanina Hoza'ah<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Of Hozae (Khuzistan) .');"><sup>57</sup></span> laid down: It is a legal presumption that a Fellow would not allow any unprepared thing<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., produce for which the prescribed dues have not been given.');"><sup>58</sup></span> to pass out of his hand.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Pes. 9a. This presumption, however, does not apply to an ordinary agent who might sometimes fail to carry out his mission.');"><sup>59</sup></span> The Master said: 'This applies only to [an owner who was] an am ha-arez, but if he was a Fellow [the latter] may eat [the fruit] and need not tithe them; so Rabbi'. To whom could this 'am ha-arez<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The owner spoken of.');"><sup>60</sup></span> have been speaking? If it be suggested that he was speaking to an 'am ha-arez like himself<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'his friend'.');"><sup>61</sup></span> [what sense is there in the ruling,] 'Must tithe them, as demai'? Would he obey it?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Certainly not. The one 'am ha-arez would rather rely on the other.');"><sup>62</sup></span> Consequently it in must be a case<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'but'.');"><sup>63</sup></span> where an 'am ha-arez was speaking to a Fellow. Now, then, read the final clause: 'My view seems [to be more acceptable] than that of my father, since it is preferable that Fellows should be suspected of giving terumah from [produce] that is not in close proximity [with that for which it is given] than that they should give 'amme ha-arez to eat all sorts of tebel'; how<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since the person addressed was a Fellow.');"><sup>64</sup></span> does the question of 'amme ha-arez at all arise?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'what do they want there?'');"><sup>65</sup></span> - Rabina replied: The first clause deals with an 'am ha-arez who was speaking to a Fellow, and the final clause deals with a Fellow who was speaking to all am ha-arez while another Fellow was listening to the conversation.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'heard him'.');"><sup>66</sup></span> Rabbi

Jerusalem Talmud Maasrot

25Tosephta 2:5, Babli Eruvin 32a.“ ‘Go and collect for yourself 20 figs from my tree’, he eats as usual and is free26In the Tosephta and Babli (printed editions and Munich ms.): “He may eat a snack and tithes as certainly untithed.” But R. Ḥananel reads in the Babli: “He may eat a snack and tithes as demay.” The Yerushalmi does not deal with the problem; the baraita simply states that he “is free” to eat an untithed snack.. ‘Go and fill a basket,’ he should not eat before tithing27In the Tosephta and Babli: He may eat a snack and tithes as demay”; since the giver specifies a measure he might have given tithes for his gift from another batch. Here R. Ḥananel reads: “tithes as certainly untithed.” The Yerushalmi does not deal with the problem: According to Mishnah 1:5, a filled basket subjects all figs in it to heave and tithes. It is clear that then the figs cannot be eaten untithed. But the status of the tithing, whether demay or certain, is not determined.. When has this been said? About a vulgar. But from a Fellow he can eat and does not have to tithe, the words of Rebbi. Rabban Simeon ben Gamliel says, when has this been said? About a vulgar. But from a Fellow he has to put it in order as certainly untithed since Fellows are not suspected to tithe what is not earmarked28See Terumot 4:3, Note 21; 2:1, Notes 3,6.. Rebbi said, I prefer my words to those of Rabban Simeon ben Gamliel29This is the formulation of the editor. Rebbi would have said “my father”.. It is preferable that they should tithe what is not earmarked30Transgressing a positive biblical injunction. than to feed ṭevel to the vulgar31Committing the grave sin of “putting a stone in the path of a blind man.” Rabban Simeon ben Gamliel holds that the just should never sin to save the wicked; this is his position everywhere, cf. Demay 3:8, Note 135, Mishnah Ma‘aser Šeni 5:1; Babli Baba Qama 69a..” Rebbi Zeїra said, from both their opinions [it follows that] even a Fellow who sends to another Fellow must tithe32See Demay 2:2, Note 125 (R. Zeїra in the name of R. Joḥanan). In Halakhah 5:1, the rule is attributed to R. Simeon ben Laqish.. They ventured to say, he who said that Fellows are not suspected to tithe what is not earmarked, when somebody is a Fellow he has to tithe33The recipient has to tithe as certainly untithed if circumstances indicate that the produce could not have been tithed by the giver, as in the case here since the figs collected in the recipient’s basket could not have been delineated by the giver; cf. Demay 3:3, Notes 79 ff.. And he who said, it is better to tithe what is not earmarked than to feed ṭevel to the vulgar, if he is a Fellow he has to tithe34The giver has to tithe by the rule of Rebbi; the recipient has to tithe by the rules of demay.. Rebbi Jonah asked: Here you declare him to be a Fellow, there you declare him to be a vulgar35The recipient is treated as a Fellow since he is required to tithe demay. On the other hand, he is treated as a vulgar in Rebbi’s argument.. Rebbi Yose said, in both cases, he is a vulgar. But because of the rare one who puts in order he is called a Fellow36If somebody is not a Fellow, he nevertheless may not be a vulgar in the legal sense of the word..
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