Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Talmud for Shabbat 128:18

תנאי היא דתניא

— Because he teaches of an old woman's [going out] with a young woman's [hair], he also teaches of a young woman's [going out] with an old woman's hair. WITH A HAIR-NET AND A WIG INTO A COURTYARD. Rab said: Whatever the Sages forbade to go out therewith into the street, one may not go out therewith into a courtyard,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lest she forget herself and go out into the street too. ');"><sup>16</sup></span> except a hair-net and a wig. R. 'Anani b. Sason said on the authority of R. Ishmael son of R. Jose: It is all like a hair-net. We learnt: WITH A HAIR-NET AND A WIG INTO A COURTYARD. As for Rab, it is well; but according to R. 'Anani b. Sason it is a difficulty? — On whose authority does R. 'Anani b. Sason say this? On that of R. Ishmael son of R. Jose! R. Ishmael son of R. Jose is a Tanna, and can disagree.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' It is axiomatic that an amora cannot disagree with a Tanna, but another Tanna of course can. The Mishnah certainly disagrees with R. 'Anani b. Sason, but it does not matter, as he is supported by another Tanna. ');"><sup>17</sup></span> Now, according to Rab, why do these differ? — Said 'Ulla, [They are permitted] lest she become repulsive to her husband.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Hence some ornaments must be permitted. ');"><sup>18</sup></span> As it was taught: And she that is sick shall be in her impurity:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. XV, 33. The reference is to a menstruant. ');"><sup>19</sup></span> the early Sages<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'elders'. ');"><sup>20</sup></span> ruled: That means that she must not rouge nor paint nor adorn herself in dyed garments; until R. Akiba came and taught: If so, you make her repulsive to her husband, with the result that he will divorce her! But what [then] is taught by, 'and she that is sick shall be it, her impurity'? She shall remain in her impurity until she enters Into water.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., until she has a ritual bath. ');"><sup>21</sup></span> Rab Judah said in Rab's name: Wherever the Sages forbade [aught] for appearances' sake, it is forbidden even In one's innermost chambers.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' E.g., one must not lead on Sabbath a number of animals tied together, lest he be suspected of going to market with them (supra 54a). Accordingly he may not do so even in the utmost privacy. ');"><sup>22</sup></span> We learnt: Nor with a bell, even if it is plugged.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. supra 54b Mishnah. ');"><sup>23</sup></span> And it was elsewhere taught.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Var. lec.: and it was taught thereon. ');"><sup>24</sup></span> One may plug the bell around its [the animal's] neck and saunter with it in the courtyard?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This refutes Rab, for though it may not be done publicly in the street, it may be done privately in one's courtyard. ');"><sup>25</sup></span> — It is [a controversy of] Tannaim. For it was taught:

Jerusalem Talmud Kilayim

“But they are forbidden because of the bad impression.” Rav said that everything forbidden because of a bad impression is forbidden even in the most private room34In Babli Šabbat 64b, 146b, Beẓah9a, Avodah Zarah 12a this is accepted practice while it is rejected in the Yerushalmi, cf. Roš Šabbat 22:9.. A baraita contradicts Rav: “One should not make a visible fringe of linen dyed with soot, but for mattresses and pillows it is permitted.35Since linen usually is bleached, not dyed, this will look like wool. Nevertheless, such decorations are permitted in the bedroom and only forbidden where others may see them and suspect the owner of wearing kilaim.” A baraita contradicts Rav: “If one’s coins were strewn before an idol he should not bow down to collect them lest he look as if he was prostrating himself before the idol. But if it occurred at a hidden place it is permitted.36This and the following baraita are found also in Tosephta Avodah Zarah 6:4,6 and Babli Avodah Zarah12a. Instead of “if it occurred at a hidden place it is permitted”, these Babylonian sources read: “If it cannot be seen it is permitted.” This is reinterpreted in the Babli to mean: “If he can arrange it so that he will not be seen bowing down to (or kissing) the idol, it is permitted,” for example by collecting the coins kneeling with his back to the idol. Such a reinterpretation is impossible in the Yerushalmi’s version.” A baraita contradicts Rav: “In a fortified place one should not put his face on gargoyles in the form of faces lest he look as if he was kissing an idol. But if it occurred at a hidden place it is permitted.” A Mishnah contradicts Rav: “One does not slaughter into a pit in the ground but he may dig a pit in his house so that the blood may be collected there. In public, he should not do it so as not to imitate the sectarians.37Ḥulin 2:9, Babli 41a. It is not known to which sect the Mishnah refers. The Babli does not count the Mishnah as contradicting Rav.” A baraita contradicts Rav: “Once he arrived at the outermost courtyard he may spread them out in the sun but not where it is generally visible.38Babli Šabbat 146b, speaking of a man whose clothes got wet on the Sabbath who might be suspected of having washed them that day. In the version of the Babli, Rebbi Eliezer and Rebbi Simeon prohibit spreading out any clothes at all.” A baraita contradicts Rav: “One does not pour water on the Sabbath into a sewage pipe covered the length of four cubits.39A similar text in Mishnah Eruvin 8:10, a baraita permitting to pour the water in wintertime Babli Eruvin 88b; a parallel text Eruvin 8:10 (fol. 25b). The situation referred to is a sewage pipe leading away from a courtyard. The water poured out in the courtyard will run into the pipe and flow away into the public domain. While no Sabbath prohibition has been violated by pouring out water in one’s own private courtyard, the water flowing in the pipe will give the impression that it was poured into the public domain, a desecration of the Sabbath. The rabbinic prohibition of pouring water does not apply if either the pipe is covered all the way or if the pipe was carrying water before anything was poured out into the courtyard.” We have stated on this: If water was flowing in it it is permitted, in the winter it is permitted. If aquaeduct pipes spout it is forbidden. Bar Qappara stated that if it occurred at a hidden place it is permitted40Against the opinion of Rav. This statement is not in the Babli.. All these statements contradict Rav and he cannot explain them.
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Avot D'Rabbi Natan

What is the fence that the Torah made around its words? It says (Leviticus 18:19), “Do not come near woman during her period of impurity.” Perhaps [you would still think] one could hug her and kiss her and speak flirtatiously with her. So the verse tells you, “Do not come near.” Perhaps [you would still think] one could sleep next to her on the bed, as long as she was clothed. So the verse tells you, “Do not come near.” Perhaps [you would still think] she could wash her face and put makeup on her eyes. So the verse (Leviticus 15:33) tells you, “She is in her period of exile” – that is, all the days that she is in her period [of impurity], she will be in exile. Because of this they said: The spirit of the sages is pleased with anyone who makes herself unattractive during the days of her period [of impurity]. The spirit of the sages is displeased with anyone who makes herself attractive during the days of her period [of impurity].
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