Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Beitzah 5

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גזרה שמא יעלה ויתלוש היא גופה גזרה ואנן ניקום ונגזור גזרה לגזרה כולה חדא גזרה היא

It's a [rabbinic] decree lest one should go up and pluck [fruit from the tree]. That's the essence of the decree and we don't establish and decree a decree on [another] decree!" "It's all one decree."

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רבי יצחק אמר גזרה משום משקין שזבו

Rabbi Yitzhak says: "It's a [rabbinic] decree because of [fruit] juice that flows [out on Yom Tov]." [Explained below].

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אמר ליה אביי משקין שזבו טעמא מאי גזרה שמא יסחוט היא גופה גזרה ואנן ניקום ונגזור גזרה לגזרה כולה חדא גזרה היא

Abaye said to him: "What's the reason for [fruit] juice that flows? It's a decree lest one should squeeze [the fruit themselves]! This is the essence of the decree and we don't establish and decree a decree on [another] decree!" "It's all one decree."

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כולהו כרב נחמן לא אמרי כי קושיין כרבה נמי לא אמרי הכנה לית להו

None of these [Rav Yoseif and Rabbi Yitzhak] are according to Rav Nahman because of our problems [earlier]. They also did not speak according to Rabbah, [since] they don't have [the] preparation [principle Rabbah outlined above].

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אלא רב יוסף מאי טעמא לא אמר כרבי יצחק אמר לך ביצה אוכלא ופירות אוכלא לאפוקי משקין דלאו אוכלא

But, Rav Yoseif, what's the reason he is not speaking according to Rabbi Yitzhak? He [Rav Yoseif] would say to you: "An egg is food, and fruit is food – to exclude juices which aren't food!"

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ורבי יצחק מאי טעמא לא אמר כרב יוסף אמר לך ביצה בלועה ומשקין בלועין לאפוקי פירות דמגלו וקיימו

And Rabbi Yitzhak, what's the reason he is not speaking according to Rav Yoseif? He [Rabbi Yitzhak] would say to you: "An egg is swallowed [by the chicken], and juice is swallowed [by the fruit, i.e. they are both coming out of something that is separate] – to exclude fruit which is exposed and exists [separately from the tree]."

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ואף רבי יוחנן סבר גזרה משום משקין שזבו דרבי יוחנן רמי דרבי יהודה אדרבי יהודה ומשני

And even Rabbi Yohanan thinks it's a [rabbinic] decree because of [fruit] juice that flows, since Rabbi Yohanan contrasted [one opinion of] Rabbi Yehudah against [another opinion of] Rabbi Yehudah, and taught [about this].

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תנן אין סוחטין את הפירות להוציא מהן משקין ואם יצאו מעצמן אסורין רבי יהודה אומר אם לאוכלין היוצא מהן מותר ואם למשקין היוצא מהן אסור

It is taught [in a Mishnah]: "[We] do not squeeze fruit to bring forth juices from them – and if the [juices] leave by themselves, they are forbidden. Rabbi Yehudah says: 'If [the fruit] was for food, what comes out of them is permitted. But if [the fruit] was for juices, what comes out of them is forbidden.'"

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אלמא כל אוכלין לרבי יהודה אוכלא דאפרת הוא

Consequently, All food according to Rabbi Yehudah is food that has broken off [and has the same status of the food it came from]. And they contrasted [this from another Mishnah]: "And further Rabbi Yehudah said:

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ורמינהו ועוד אמר רבי יהודה מתנה אדם על כלכלה של פירות ביום טוב ראשון

'A person can make a condition on a basket of fruit on the first day of Yom Tov [Rosh HaShanah]

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ואוכלה בשני וכן ביצה שנולדה בראשון תאכל בשני

and eat it on the second – And so too with an egg that is laid [lit. born] on the first [day], it can be eaten on the second.'"

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בשני אין בראשון לא ומשני רבי יוחנן מוחלפת השיטה

On the second – yes; on the first – no! And Rabbi Yohanan taught: "Switch the attributions! [I.e. in the first Mishnah, swap Rabbi Yehudah's opinion with the first anonymous opinion]"

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ומדקא מרמי להו אהדדי שמע מינה חד טעמא הוא

And from this contrast of [Rabbi Yehudah] against each other [what can we learn]? We learn from this that [Rabbi Yohanan] has one [consistent] opinion [– that he holds that fruit juices flowing is the underlying reason that Rabbi Yehudah forbids the egg laid on Yom Tov].

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