Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Chullin 100

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בוקי סריקי

empty vessels?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., do not attribute to R. Nahman absurd views. tryc tsyc');"><sup>1</sup></span>

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הכי אמר רב נחמן

Thus said R'Nahman, Where it is joined [to the hips] even if the whole was gone, provided there remained a portion thereof which can be covered by a hand-grasp, it is permitted.

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מקום הדבק אפילו ניטל כולו כשר והוא שנשתייר בו כדי תפיסה

How much is this? - A bitra in an ox.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' or . According to Rashi it means, 'one fingerbreadth'; according to Alfasi and Tosaf. (supra 44a) 'four fingerbreadths'. hchs thbx');"><sup>2</sup></span>

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וכמה

IF THE INNER RUMEN WAS PIERCED.

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אמר אביי

Rab Judah reported in the name of Rab that Nathan B'Shila, chief slaughterer in Sepphoris, testified before Rabbi in the name of R'Nathan as follows: 'What is the inner rumen?

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כמלא בטדא בתורא:

It is the sania dibi'.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' , lit., 'disliked by wolves'. It is a certain part at the top of the rumen which is described by this term. For an exhaustive discussion on this passage v. Katzenelsohn op. cit. pp. 186-189.');"><sup>3</sup></span>

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הכרס הפנימי:

R'Joshua B'Karha also said that it is the sania dibi.

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אמר רב יהודה אמר רב

R'Ishmael said: It is th entrance of the rumen.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'the stomach of the rumen'. 'Stomach' was frequently used by ancient doctors to describe the entrance to an organ, viz., 'mouth', 'entrance'.');"><sup>4</sup></span>

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העיד נתן בר שילא ריש טבחיא דצפורי לפני רבי משום רבי נתן

R'Assi said in the name of R'Johanan, It is a narrow part in the rumen but I don't know which it is.

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אי זו היא כרס הפנימי סניא דיבי

Said R'Nahman B'Isaac, The rumen has fallen into the well.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., the matter is far from clear, for R. Johanan has suggested some portion which he cannot identify or locate.');"><sup>5</sup></span>

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וכן אמר רבי יהושע בן קרחה

R'Aha B''Awa said in the name of R'Assi, It [the above-mentioned narrow part] is that portion of the rumen where it begins to taper down [to join with the gullet].

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סניא דיבי

R'Jacob B'Nahmani said in the name of Samuel, It is that part of the rumen which has no downy lining.

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רבי ישמעאל אמר

R'Abina said in the name of Geniba on the authority of Rab: The last handbreadth of the gullet adjoining the rumen is the inner rumen.

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איסתומכא דכרסא

In the West [Palestine] it was said on the authority of R'Jose B'Hanina, The entire rumen is the inner rumen.

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רב אסי אמר רבי יוחנן

And what is the outer rumen?

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מקום צר יש בכרס ואיני יודע איזהו

It is the membrane<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'the flesh'.');"><sup>6</sup></span>

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אמר רב נחמן בר יצחק

which covers the greater part of the rumen.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., the peritoneum. t,grpn grp');"><sup>7</sup></span>

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נפל כרסא בבירא

Rabbah son of R'Huna said: It is the mafra'ta.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' from root 'to tear open'.');"><sup>8</sup></span>

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אמר רב אחא בר רב עוא אמר רב אסי

What is the mafra'ta?

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מן המיצר ולמטה

R'Awia said: It is that part of the rumen which is exposed when the butcher tears open the abdomen.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., the anterior half of the rumen.');"><sup>9</sup></span>

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רבי יעקב בר נחמני אמר שמואל

In Nehardea they acted on the view of Rabbah son Of R'Huna.

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מקום שאין בו מילת

R'Ashi asked Amemar, But what about all the other views? - He answered: They are all included in the view of Rabbah son of R'Huna.

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רבי אבינא אמר גניבא משמיה דרב

But what about the view of R'Assi in the name of R'Johanan? - He answered: It has already been explained by R'Aha son of R'Awia.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That it is that portion of the rumen where it begins to taper, and that is included in the anterior half of the rumen.');"><sup>10</sup></span>

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טפח בוושט סמוך לכרס זו היא כרס הפנימית

And what about the view of R'Abina and of those in the West? - He answered: These are obviously at variance [with the view of Rabbah son of R'Huna].

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אמרי במערבא משמיה דרבי יוסי בר חנינא

R'JUDAH SAYS, IN A LARGE ANIMAL etc. R'Benjamin B'Japhet reported in the name of R'Eleazar, LARGE does not mean a large animal nor SMALL a small one, but the meaning is: If it was torn to the extent of a handbreadth but this was not the greater portion [of the rumen, it is trefah], and this is what the Mishnah teaches us by stating IN A LARGE ANIMAL TO THE EXTENT OF A HANDBREADTH; and if the greater portion was torn but it was not the extent of a handbreadth, [it is trefah], and this is what the Mishnah teaches us by stating IN A SMALL ANIMAL THE GREATER PORTION OF IT.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Either the one measure or the other measure, whichever is the smaller, will render the animal trefah.');"><sup>11</sup></span>

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כל הכרס כולו זו היא כרס הפנימית

But it is obvious, is it not that where the greater portion was torn, though it was not the extent of a handbreadth, [it is trefah]? - It was only necessary to be stated with regard to such a case as where the laceration [extended over the greater portion but it] would have made up a handbreadth had it only been torn a little more, for then you might have said that it was not trefah until the extent of a handbreadth was torn; he therefore teaches [that it is no so].

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ואיזהו כרס החיצון בשר החופה את רוב הכרס

Geniba said in the name of R'Assi: If a circular hole was cut out [in the rumen having a diameter] of a sela', it is trefah, for then if you were to stretch out [the circumference thereof] it would amount to a handbreadth.

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רבה בר רב הונא אמר

R'Hiyya B'Abba said: Geniba explained it to me on the bridge of Nehardea thus: A hole [having a diameter] of a sela' is permitted; if it is more than a sela' it is trefah.

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מפרעתה

What, for example, is a ho larger than a sela'? - Said R'Joseph.

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מאי מפרעתה

A hole through which three date stones with some of the fruit attached<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., with some of the fruit attached to the stone.');"><sup>12</sup></span>

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אמר רב אויא

could pass with pressure, or easily without any fruit thereon.

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היכא דפרעי טבחי

IF THE OMASUM OR RETICULUM WAS PIERCED.

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בנהרדעא עבדי כרבה בר רב הונא

Our Rabbis taught: Where a needle was found impacted in the thick wall of the reticulum, if it had protruded only on one side<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., it had only pierced the inner coat of the reticulum.');"><sup>13</sup></span>

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א"ל רב אשי לאמימר

it is permitted.

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כל הני שמעתתא מאי

but if i had protruded on both sides it is trefah.

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א"ל

If there was found on it a spot of blood

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כולהו שייכן בדרבה בר רב הונא

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ודרב אסי א"ר יוחנן מאי

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א"ל

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כבר פירשה רב אחא בר עוא

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ודרבי אבינא ודבני מערבא מאי

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א"ל

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הני ודאי פליגי:

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רבי יהודה אומר בגדולה כו':

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אמר רבי בנימין בר יפת אר"א

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לא גדולה גדולה ממש ולא קטנה קטנה ממש

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אלא כל שנקרע בה טפח ולא הוי רובא זו היא ששנינו

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בגדולה טפח

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רובא ולא הוי טפח זו היא ששנינו

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בקטנה ברובא

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רובא ולא הוי טפח פשיטא

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לא צריכא דהויא טפח במשהו

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מהו דתימא

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עד דמיקרע בה טפח לא הוי טרפה קמ"ל

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אמר גניבא אמר רבי אסי

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נקדרה כסלע טרפה שאם תמתח תעמוד על הטפח

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אמר רבי חייא בר אבא לדידי מפרשא לי מיניה דגניבא אמברא דנהרדעא

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כסלע כשרה יתר מכסלע טרפה

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וכמה יתר מכסלע

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אמר רב יוסף

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כגון דעיילן תלת קשייתא בציפא בדוחקא בלא ציפא ברווחא:

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המסס ובית הכוסות:

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תנו רבנן

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מחט שנמצאת בעובי בית הכוסות מצד אחד כשרה משני צדדים טרפה

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נמצא עליה קורט דם

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