Chullin 110

Chapter 110

א למקום חריץ
1 up to the hilum [of the kidney].
ב והיכא מקום חריץ
2 Where is this? - At the white [calyces in the middle of the kidney] which are immediately below the loins.
ג לחיורא דתותי מתני
3 R'Nehuniah said: I enquired of all those who decide questions of trefah in the West and they told me that the law was in accordance with the ruling of Rakish B'Papa, but that the law was not in accordance with the ruling of R''Awira.
ד א"ר נחוניא
4 This<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That R. 'Awira's ruling is not accepted.');"><sup>1</sup></span>
ה שאילתינהו לכולהו טרופאי דמערבא ואמרו לי
5 is so, however, only if it [the spleen] was pierced i the flat part, but if it was pierced in the thick part it is trefah.
ו הלכתא כרכיש בר פפא
6 And if there remained [of the spleen] the thickness of a golden denar [that had not been pierced], it is permitted.
ז ולית הלכתא כרב עוירא (דרב עוירא נמי) לא אמרן אלא בקולשיה אבל בסומכיה טרפה ואי אישתייר ביה כעובי דינר זהב כשרה
7 It was said in the West: Whatsoever is considered a defect in the lung is not a defect in the kidney, for a perforation is a defect in the lung and is not a defect in the kidney; and of course, whatsoever is not considered a defect in the lung is not a defect in the kidney.
ח אמרי במערבא
8 R'Tanhuma demurred: Is this a fast rule?
ט כל הפוסל בריאה כשר בכוליא שהרי נקב פסול בריאה וכשר בכוליא וכל שכן היכא דכשר בריאה כשר בכוליא
9 But take the case of pus, which [if found] in the lung is not considered a defect, but in the kidney is considered a defect.
י מתקיף לה ר' תנחומא
10 And indeed, take the case of clear water which [if found] in either organ is not a defect.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This question is unintelligible, and Rashi is at a loss to explain it. The fact that this is clearly implied in the second ruling which followed as a matter of course makes this statement meaningless; but v. Tosaf a.I. It seems that the entire passage is corrupt. R. Gershom comments upon this line, but on the other hand does not seem to have had the second ruling in his text. A very likely original text is to be found in the Alfasi on this passage, q.v.');"><sup>2</sup></span>
יא וכללא הוא
11 Rather said R'Ashi: Do you compare defects with each other?
יב והרי מוגלא דכשר בריאה ופסול בכוליא
12 Amongst the various defects we cannot say that this resembles that; for an animal may be cut in one place and die, and in another place and live.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And consequently some defect may not be accounted trefah in the lung and yet be trefah in the kidney.');"><sup>3</sup></span>
יג והרי מים זכין דכשרים הכא והכא
13 Now this ruling, that if filled<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. the lung or the kidney.');"><sup>4</sup></span>
יד אלא אמר רב אשי
14 with clear water it is permitted, applies only if the water was pellucid, but if it was turbid it is trefah.
טו טרפות קא מדמית להדדי
15 And the ruling, that if filled with pellucid water it is permitted, applies only if the wat was not fetid, but if it was fetid it is trefah.
טז אין אומרים בטרפות זו דומה לזו שהרי חותכה מכאן ומתה חותכה מכאן וחיתה
16 If the kidney diminished in size,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The kidney shrivelled up or wasted away by disease; this is known as Bright's disease.');"><sup>5</sup></span>
יז ומים זכין כשרים לא אמרן אלא דצילי אבל עכירי טרפה
17 down to a bean in the case of small cattle, or down to a medium sized grape in the case of large cattle, [it is trefah].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So Maim. and Asheri; but v. Hal. Ged.');"><sup>6</sup></span>
יח וכי צילי נמי לא אמרן אלא דלא סריח אבל סריח טרפה הכוליא שהקטינה בדקה עד כפול בגסה עד כענבה בינונית:
18 <br>(IF THE LOWER JAW-BONE WAS GONE.
יט (ניטל לחי התחתון:
19 R'Zera said: The Mishnah teaches [that it is permitted] only where the animal can continue to live by the stuffing and the pushing of food [into its gullet], but if it canno continue to live by the stuffing and the pushing of food [into its gullet] it is trefah).<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The whole of this paragraph is omitted in most MSS. Asheri remarks that the law stated in this passage is based on the authority of the Geonim, so that it is clear that it did not form part of the text of the GEMARA: Rashal deletes it from current ed. otw ,ujpryw ,hjupka');"><sup>7</sup></span>
כ א"ר זירא
20 IF THE WOMB WAS GONE.
כא לא שנו אלא שיכולה לחיות על ידי לעיטה והמראה טרפה):
21 A Tanna taught: 'Em, tarpahath, and shalpuhith, are all one and the same thing.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' . They all mean the womb or matrix. v,urj');"><sup>8</sup></span>
כב ניטלה האם שלה:
22 IF THE LUNG WAS SHRIVELLED UP<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Heb. , 'engraved, wrinkled or shrunken'.');"><sup>9</sup></span>
כג תנא
23 BY AN ACT OF GOD IT IS PERMITTED.
כד היא האם היא טרפחת והיא שלפוחית:
24 Our Rabbis taught: What is harusah?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Heb. , 'engraved, wrinkled or shrunken'.');"><sup>9</sup></span>
כה וחרותה בידי שמים כשרה:
25 If its lung was shrivelled up; if by an act of God it is permitted, but if by the act of man<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A person frightened the animal either with a stick or by slaughtering another animal in its presence (Alfasi) .');"><sup>10</sup></span>
כו תנו רבנן
26 it is trefah.
כז איזוהי חרותה
27 R'Simeon B'Eleazar says: Even by other creatures.
כח כל שצמקה ריאה שלה בידי שמים כשרה בידי אדם טרפה
28 It was asked: Does he [R'Simeon B'Eleazar] refer to the first clause,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., a fright caused by other creatures, e.g., the roaring of a lion, would come under the category of an act of God, and would be permitted.');"><sup>11</sup></span>
כט רבי שמעון בן אלעזר אומר
29 thus making the law more lenient, or does he refer to the second clause,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That it is in the same category as the act of man, and it would be trefah.');"><sup>12</sup></span>
ל אף בידי כל הבריות
30 thus making it more strict? - Come and hear: It was taught: If it was shrivelled up by an act of man it is trefah.
לא איבעיא להו רבי שמעון בן אלעזר ארישא קאי ולקולא או אסיפא קאי ולחומרא
31 R'Simeon B'Eleazar says: Even by other creatures [it is also trefah].
לב תא שמע דתניא
32 Rabbah B'Bar Hana was once travelling through a desert when he came upon certain rams whose lungs were all shrivelled up.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' But it was not known whether the lungs were shrivelled up by an act of God or by the act of man.');"><sup>13</sup></span>
לג חרותה בידי אדם טרפה רבי שמעון בן אלעזר אומר
33 He went and enquired about them at the college, and was told the following: In summer one must take white glazed basins, fill them with cold water, and leave the lungs therein for a period of twenty-four hours; if they return to their normal state it is a sign that it was caused by an act of God, and they are permitted, otherwise they are trefah.
לד אף בידי כל הבריות
34 In winter one must take dark<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Or: 'copper basins', and in the former case earthenware basins'.');"><sup>14</sup></span>
לה רבה בר בר חנה הוה קאזיל במדברא אשכח הנהו דיכרי דצמיק ריאה דידהו אתא שאיל בי מדרשא אמרו ליה
35 glazed basins, fill them with warm water, and leave the lungs therein for a period of twenty-four hours; if they return to their normal state they are permitted, otherwise they are trefah.
לו בקייטא אייתי משיכלי חיורי ומלינהו מיא קרירי ואנחינהו מעת לעת אי הדרן בריין בידי שמים היא וכשרה ואי לא טרפה
36 IF AN ANIMAL WAS STRIPPED OF ITS HIDE.
לז בסיתוא אייתי משיכלי שיחומי ומלינהו מיא פשורי ואנחינהו מעת לעת אי הדרא בריא כשרה ואי לא טרפה:
37 Our Rabbis taught: If it was stripped of its hide, R'Meir declares it valid, but the Rabbis declare it invalid.
לח הגלודה:
38 Long ago Eleazar the scribe and Johanan B'Gudgada had testified that an animal stripped of its hide was invalid.
לט תנו רבנן
39 R'Simeon B'Eleazar said that R'Meir had retracted his view.
מ הגלודה רבי מאיר מכשיר וחכמים פוסלים
40 It would follow, therefore, that according to R'Simeon B'Eleazar R'Meir did dispute the law of an animal stripped of its hide [with the Rabbis].
מא וכבר העיד אלעזר ספרא ויוחנן בן גודגדא על הגלודה שפסולה
41 But Surely it has been taught: R'Simeon B'Eleazar said: There was never any dispute between R'Meir and the Rabbis in the case of an animal stripped of its hide, for it is certainly invalid.
מב אמר רבי שמעון בן אלעזר
42 Moreover, R'Oshaia, the son of R'Judah the spice-dealer, had testified before R'Akiba on the authority of R'Tarfon, that an animal stripped of its hide was invalid.
מג חזר בו רבי מאיר
43 But if there remained thereof the size of a sela', it was permitted! - R'Nahman B'Isaac answered that the words, 'There was never any dispute', meant that R'Meir did not persist in the controversy.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' But finally agreed with the view of the Rabbis.');"><sup>15</sup></span>
מד מכלל דלרבי שמעון בן אלעזר פליג רבי מאיר בגלודה
44 The Master stated: 'If there remained thereof the size of a sela' it was permitted'.
מה והתניא אמר רבי שמעון בן אלעזר
45 Where must this be? - Rab Judah said in the name of Samuel: Along the entire backbone.
מו לא נחלקו ר"מ וחכמים על הגלודה שפסולה
46 It was asked: Does this mean, a long thin strip [along the entire backbone], so that when rolled up it would be the size of a sela', or does it mean, [a strip] the width of a sela' along the entire backbone? - Come and hear, for R'Nehorai explained it on the authority of Samuel to mean, [a strip] the width of a sela' along the entire backbone.
מז וכבר העיד רבי אושעיא בנו של רבי יהודה הבשם לפני רבי עקיבא משום רבי טרפון על הגלודה שפסולה
47 Rabbah B'Bar Hana said, [There must be the size of a sela'] at the top of every joint.
מח ואם נשתייר בו כסלע כשרה
48 R'Eleazar B'Antigonos said in the name of R'Eleazar B'R'Jannai, At the navel.
מט אמר רב נחמן בר יצחק
49 R'Jannai son of R'Ishmael raised this question: What if the skin along the entire backbone was gone but all the rest of it remained, or if the skin at the navel was gone but all the rest of it remained, or if the skin at the top of each joint was gone but all the rest of it remained? - This remains undecided.
נ מאי לא נחלקו לא עמד רבי מאיר במחלוקתו:
50 Rab said: Any [remnant of] skin anywhere [the size of a sela'] saves [the animal from being declared trefah], except the skin around the hoofs.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., the skin of the nethermost limb of either the fore-legs or the hind legs; v. infra 122a. This skin is quite tender and is regarded as flesh and not as hide; consequently such skin would not save the animal from being declared trefah.');"><sup>16</sup></span>
נא אמר מר
51 But R'Johanan said: Even the skin around the hoofs saves [the animal from being declared trefah].
נב אם נשתייר בו כסלע כשרה
52 R'Assi enquired of R'Johanan, 'Would the skin around the hoofs save [the animal from being declared trefah]? ' - He replied: 'It would'.'
נג היכא
53 But', retorted the other, 'you, our teacher have taught us, "In the following cases the skin is accounted as flesh:.
נד אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל
54 the skin around the hoofs"'.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. infra 122a. The skin being tender conveys uncleanness like the flesh.');"><sup>17</sup></span>
נה על פני השדרה כולה
55 - He replied: 'Do not weary me [with your arguments], for I taught that as the opinion of an individual.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The opinion in the Mishnah quoted agrees with the second opinion in the following Baraitha, but is not the accepted law.');"><sup>18</sup></span>
נו איבעיא להו
56 For it was taught:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Zeb. 282.');"><sup>19</sup></span>
נז דאריך וקטין דכי מצרף לה הוי כסלע או דלמא ברוחב סלע על פני השדרה כולה
57 If a man slaughtered a burnt-offering purposing to burn an olive's bulk of the skin from under the fat tail<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' According to this view this is the only skin that is regarded as flesh.');"><sup>20</sup></span>
נח תא שמע דפריש רבי נהוראי משמיה דשמואל
58 at the improper place, the sacrifice is invalid, and he is not liable to the punishment of Kareth,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Glos.');"><sup>21</sup></span>
נט ברוחב כסלע על פני כל השדרה כולה
59 but [if he purposed to burn it] at the improper time, it would be piggul,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Glos.');"><sup>21</sup></span>
ס רבה בר בר חנה אמר
60 and he would be liable to the punishment of Kareth.
סא ראשי פרקים
61 Eliezer B'Judah of Ibelaim<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Abel in the neighbourhood of Sepphoris; v. Klein Beitrage, p. 28.');"><sup>22</sup></span>
סב רבי אלעזר בן אנטיגנוס משום רבי אלעזר ברבי ינאי אמר
62 stated in the name of R'Jacob, similarly R'Simeon B'Judah of Kefar 'Ikus<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A variant for Ketar Acco in lower Galilee.');"><sup>23</sup></span>
סג מקום טיבורו
63 stated in the name of R'Simeon, [If a man while slaughtering a burnt-offering purposed to burn] either the skin around the hoofs, or the skin of the head of a young calf,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., only so long as it sucks from the dam.');"><sup>24</sup></span>
סד בעי רבי ינאי בר' ישמעאל
64 or the skin from under the fat tail, or any of the skins which were enumerated by the Sages in connection with the law of uncleanness when they stated that 'In the following cases the skin is as the flesh'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. infra 122a.');"><sup>25</sup></span>
סה ניטל מקום השדרה וכולו קיים ניטל מקום טיבורו וכולו קיים ניטלו ראשי פרקים וכולו קיים מאי
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סו תיקו
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סז אמר רב
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סח כל העור כולו מציל בגלודה חוץ מעור בית הפרסות
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סט ורבי יוחנן אמר
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ע אפילו עור בית הפרסות נמי מציל
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עא בעא מיניה רבי אסי מרבי יוחנן
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עב עור בית הפרסות מהו שיציל בגלודה
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עג אמר ליה
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עד מציל
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עה אמר ליה
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עו למדתנו רבינו אלו שעורותיהן כבשרן עור בית הפרסות
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עז אמר ליה
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עח אל תקניטני שבלשון יחיד אני שונה אותה
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עט דתניא
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פ השוחט את העולה להקטיר כזית מעור של תחת האליה חוץ למקומו פסול ואין בו כרת חוץ לזמנו פגול וחייבין עליו כרת
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פא אליעזר בן יהודה איש איבלים אמר משום רבי יעקב וכן היה רבי שמעון בן יהודה (איש) עיכוס אומר משום רבי שמעון
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פב אחד עור בית הפרסות ואחד עור הראש של עגל הרך ואחד עור של תחת האליה וכל שמנו חכמים גבי טומאה
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פג אלו שעורותיהן כבשרן
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