Chullin 206

Chapter 206

א מכללו אבל אבר דלא הותר מכללו לא

1 to its general [restriction],1 but it cannot [be superimposed] upon the prohibition of the 'limb' inasmuch as there is no exception to its general [restriction].

ב כי אתא רב דימי אמר בעא מיניה רבי שמעון בן לקיש מרבי יוחנן חלקו מבחוץ מהו אמר ליה פטור

2 When R'Dimi came [from Palestine] he reported that R'Simeon B'Lakish put the following question to R'Johanan: What is the law if he divided it outside?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A person took an olive's bulk from a limb that had been severed from a living animal, divided it into halves outside, i.e., before putting it into his mouth, and then swallowed each half separately. In connection with other prohibited substances this raises no doubt at all, for so long as he consumed the required quantity, namely an olive's bulk, within the time it takes to eat a half-loaf, he is deemed to have eaten the requisite amount and he is liable; v. Yoma 80b. With regard to the limb severed from the living animal, however, since it is exceptional in that the required quantity may be made up of bones and sinews to which no prohibition applies elsewhere, it might be said that this whole quantity must be eaten at one time.');">2 and he replied: He is not liable. And what if he divided it inside [his mouth]?3 and he replied: He is liable.

ג מבפנים מאי אמר ליה חייב

3 When Rabin came [from Palestine] he reported as follows: If he divided it outside he is not liable. If he divided it inside [his mouth], R'Johanan says, he is liable; R'Simeon B'Lakish says, he is not liable. R'Johanan says he is liable', because his gullet has derived enjoyment from an olive's bulk.

ד כי אתא רבין אמר חלקו מבחוץ פטור מבפנים רבי יוחנן אמר חייב וריש לקיש אמר פטור

4 R'Simeon B'Lakish says he is not liable', because there must enter in his stomach [at one time] the full amount that constitutes 'eating', and this is not the case here. 4 - R'Kahana suggested: In the case [where he ate] a small bone">.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' According to Rashi, the patella, which has but a moiety of flesh on it, but together with the sinews attached to it is of the size of an olive. This is usually swallowed whole.');">5 R'Eleazar however said: Even if he divided it outside he is also liable, because the fact that it is not consumed in one whole does not render it an incomplete act.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'what is lacking as regards being brought together is not lacking as to the act'. I.e., the fact that the olive's bulk was put into the mouth in parts, one following the other, does not exempt the person from liability, for after all he has eaten a complete olive's bulk.');">6 R'Simeon B'Lakish said: The quantity of an olive's bulk of which they [the Rabbis] have spoken does not include that which is between the teeth.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This and the subsequent cases until the end of the chapter apparently refer to all prohibited substances. According to R. Simeon b. Lakish a person is liable only if he swallowed a whole olive's bulk, i.e., this quantity entered his stomach, but not if he put an exact olive's bulk into his mouth, for in the process of mastication some of the substance would certainly adhere between the teeth and this cannot be reckoned together with the amount swallowed.');">7

ה רבי יוחנן אמר חייב הרי נהנה גרונו בכזית וריש לקיש אמר פטור אכילה במעיו בעינן וליכא

5 R'Johanan said: It includes even that which remains between the teeth. Said R'Papa: As to that which remains between the teeth they certainly do not disagree,8

ו אלא לרבי שמעון בן לקיש היכי משכחת לה דמחייב אמר רב כהנא בגרומיתא זעירתא

6 they disagree only as to that which remains in the palate and tongue. One [R'Johanan] maintains [that he is liable], since his gullet has derived enjoyment from a whole olive's bulk; the other [R'Simeon B'Lakish] maintains [that he is not liable, because] there must enter his stomach the full amount which constitutes 'eating'. R'Assi said in the name of R'Johanan: If a person ate one half-olive's bulk [of a forbidden substance] and vomited it forth, and then9

ז ורבי אלעזר אמר אפילו חלקו מבחוץ נמי חייב מחוסר קריבה לאו כמחוסר מעשה דמי

7 ate another half-olive's bulk, he is liable. Why?

ח אמר ר"ש בן לקיש כזית שאמרו חוץ משל בין השינים ורבי יוחנן אמר אף עם בין השינים

8 Because his gullet has derived enjoyment from an olive's bulk.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' [R. Assi does not accept the statement reported (supra) by R. Dimi in the name of R. Johanan exempting from liability where the olive's bulk was divided outside (Rashi) .]');">10 R'Eleazar enquired of R'Assi: What is the law if a person ate one half-olive's bulk [of a forbidden substance], vomited it forth and then ate it once again? [Let us see], what was his real question? If the question was whether it [sc. what has been vomited forth] is considered as digested food or not, then he might have put the question with regard to a complete olive's bulk;11

ט אמר רב פפא בשל בין שינים דכולי עלמא לא פליגי כי פליגי בין החניכיים מר סבר הרי נהנה גרונו בכזית ומר סבר אכילה במעיו בעינן

9 and if the question was whether we regard [eating from the enjoyment of] the gullet or [from the enjoyment of] the stomach, then he might have solved this himself from R'Assi's statement above?12 - R'Assi had forgotten the tradition [he had received from R'Johanan], and R'Eleazar came and reminded him of it in the following manner:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' R. Eleazar himself was not in doubt at all about the law, but he put the case before R. Assi in the form of a question in order to remind him in the most respectful manner of the decision given by R. Johanan.');">13 'Why speak of another half-olive's bulk?14

י אמר רבי אסי אמר רבי יוחנן אכל חצי זית והקיאו וחזר ואכל חצי זית אחר חייב מ"ט הרי נהנה גרונו בכזית

10 The Master could have dealt with the same [half-olive's bulk], by which two results would have been established, viz. , we would have learnt from if that it [sc. what is vomited forth] was not considered as digested food, and we would also have learnt from it that [one is liable if only] the gullet had derived enjoyment from an olive's bulk'. He remained silent and made no reply at all. Thereupon he [R'Eleazar] said to him, 'O wonder of the generation! Did you not often say this15 before R'Johanan and he agreed with you saying: "His gullet has in fact derived enjoyment from an olive's bulk"'?

יא בעא רבי אלעזר מר' אסי אכל חצי זית והקיאו וחזר ואכלו מהו מאי קא מיבעיא ליה אי הוי עיכול אי לא הוי עיכול ותיבעי ליה כזית

11 <big>MISHNAH: </big>EVERY KIND OF FLESH IS FORBIDDEN TO BE COOKED IN MILK,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Including even the flesh of fowls and of wild beasts. The prohibition of 'flesh cooked in milk' relating to the cooking, or to the eating, or to the enjoyment of any benefit therefrom, is derived from the thrice-repeated Biblical prohibition: Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk');">16 EXCEPTING THE FLESH OF FISH AND OF LOCUSTS; AND IT IS ALSO FORBIDDEN TO PLACE UPON THE TABLE [FLESH] WITH CHEESE,17 EXCEPTING THE FLESH OF FISH AND OF LOCUSTS.

יב אלא אי בתר גרונו אזלינן אי בתר מעיו אזלינן ותפשוט ליה מדרבי אסי

יג רבי אסי גמריה איעקר ליה ואתא ר' אלעזר לאדכוריה והכי קאמר ליה למה לי חצי זית אחר לימא מר בדידיה דאיכא למשמע מינה תרתי שמעינן מינה דלא הוי עיכול ושמעינן מינה דהרי נהנה גרונו בכזית

יד אישתיק ולא א"ל ולא מידי א"ל מופת הדור לא זימנין סגיאין אמרת קמיה דרבי יוחנן ואמר לך הרי נהנה גרונו בכזית:

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