Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Chullin 239:1

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1

אמתניתין

to our Mishnah thus, THE HIDE, MEAT JUICE, SEDIMENT.

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העור והרוטב והקיפה וכו' מצטרפין לטמא טומאת אוכלין

[BONES.] ARE TO BE INCLUDED TO CONVEY FOOD UNCLEANNESS.

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אמר ריש לקיש

Thereupon R'Simeon B'Lakish said: This was taught only with regard to a bone which is considered a protection, but a hair is not considered a protection; R'Johanan, however, said: Even a hair is considered a protection.

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לא שנו אלא עצם דהוי שומר אבל נימא לא הויא שומר

Said Resh Lakish to R'Johanan: But can there be a protection over another protection? - [He replied,] It penetrates right through.

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ור' יוחנן אמר

R'Aha demurred saying: If so, how may we write Tefillin?

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אפילו נימא נמי הויא שומר

It is necessary that the writing be perfect and it is not so? - He must have overlooked the statement [of the Rabbis] in the West, viz. , Any hole [in parchment] over which the ink can pass is not considered a hole.

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א"ל ר"ל לר' יוחנן

R'Johanan then raised the following objection against Resh Lakish: If there was an olive's bulk of [unclean] flesh on the hide and a man touched a shred hanging from it, or a hair that was opposite it, he becomes unclean.

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ומי איכא שומר על גבי שומר

It is, is it not, because it [the hair] is regarded as a protection? - No, is because it is regarded as a handle.

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חלחולי מחלחל

But of what use is one hair? - As R'Ila'a referred [elsewhere] to a bristle among many bristles, so here, too, it refers to a hair amongst other hairs.

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מתקיף לה רב אחא

And where was this view of R'Ila'a stated? - In connection with the following Mishnah: The bristles of an ear of corn contract uncleanness and convey uncleanness, but are not included together with the rest.

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אלא מעתה תפילין היכי כתבינן

Of what use is a bristle? - R'Ila'a replied: It refers to a bristle among many bristles.

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הא בעינן כתיבה תמה וליכא

MEAT JUICE.

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אישתמיטתיה הא דאמרי במערבא

What is the ROTEB?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' , translated in the Mishnah as meat juice.');"><sup>1</sup></span>

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כל נקב שהדיו עובר עליו אינו נקב

- Raba said: It is the fat.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' On the surface of the broth.');"><sup>2</sup></span>

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איתיביה ר' יוחנן לריש לקיש

Whereupon Abaye said to him: But should it not by itself convey food uncleanness? - Rather it must be, meat juice which had set.

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עור שיש עליו כזית בשר הנוגע בציב היוצא ממנו ובשערה שכנגדו טמא

But why 'had set'?

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מאי לאו משום שומר

Even if it had not set it should also [be included with the meat], for Resh Lakish has said that the juice of vegetables is to be included [with the vegetable] to make up the date's bulk with regard to the Day of Atonement.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The eating of a date's bulk on the Day of Atonement is the minimum quantity to render one liable. Here the juice of the vegetable is regarded as part of the foodstuff and is reckoned together with it to make up this quantity. If it were not regarded as part of the foodstuff but as a liquid it could not be reckoned together with it; cf. Yoma 73b.');"><sup>3</sup></span>

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לא משום יד

- There it is a question of satisfying one's hunger and anything [though not strictly a foodstuff] would satisfy it; here, however, it is a question of what can be included [with a foodstuff] and, therefore, if it [the meat juice] had set it can be included, but if it had not set it cannot be included.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For a liquid and a foodstuff cannot be reckoned together to make up the minimum quantity so as to convey food uncleanness, for the standard with each is different. vphe');"><sup>4</sup></span>

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נימא אחת למאי חזיא

SEDIMENT.

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כדאמר רבי אילעא

What is the KIPPAH?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' 'sediment'; either of the meat itself, i.e., the particles of meat that fall away in the boiling and form a jelly, or of the spices; v. infra.');"><sup>5</sup></span>

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במלאי שבין המלאין ה"נ

- Raba said,lt is the sediment [of boiled meat].

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בנימא שבין הנימין

Whereupon Abaye said to him: But should it not by itself convey food uncleanness? - Rather said R'Papa: It must be the spices.

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והיכא איתמר דרבי אילעא

We have learnt elsewhere: If a man clotted blood and ate it, or if he melted [forbidden] fat and gulped it down, he is culpable.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Men. 21a, but not in a MISHNAH:');"><sup>6</sup></span>

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אהא דתנן

Now it is quite clear in the case where he clotted blood and ate it, for since he clotte it he thereby determined it [as a foodstuff], but [why should he be culpable] where he melted fat and gulped it down?

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המלאי שבשבלין מטמאין ומיטמאין ואין מצטרפין

Scripture uses the term 'eating' in connection with it, and this is not eating? - Resh Lakish said: The verse says: Soul,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. VII, 25: The soul that eateth it shall be cut off from his people; in connection with forbidden fat. apb');"><sup>7</sup></span>

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מלאי למאי חזיא

to include one who drinks.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The word , 'soul', is also used to express desire, pleasure (cf. Gen. XXIII, 8 Deut. XXIII, 25) , so that even when a person drinks fat his 'soul' enjoys it and he is therefore liable.');"><sup>8</sup></span>

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אמר רבי אילעא

The same has been taught in respect of leavened bread: Where a man dissolved it<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. bread.');"><sup>9</sup></span>

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במלאי שבין המלאין:

and gulped it down, if it was leavened, he is liable to the penalty of kareth, and if it was unleavened, he has not thereby fulfilled his obligation on the Passover.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Pes. 35a.');"><sup>10</sup></span>

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והרוטב:

Now it is quite right to say 'If it was unleavened he has not thereby fulfilled his obligation on the Passover', for the Divine Law says: Bread of affliction,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Deut. XVI, 3.');"><sup>11</sup></span>

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מאי רוטב

and this is not bread of affliction;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' It is not the usual way of eating bread. Cf. Rashi Pes. ');"><sup>12</sup></span>

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אמר רבא

but why does it say: 'If it was leavened he is liable to the penalty of kareth'?

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שומנא

Does not Scripture use the term eating' in connection with it?

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א"ל אביי

Resh Lakish said: The verse says: Soul,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Ex. XII, 15: That soul shall be cut off from Israel.');"><sup>13</sup></span>

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הוא עצמו יטמא טומאת אוכלין

to include one who drinks.

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אלא חלב דקריש

And the same has been taught in respect of the carcass of a clean bird: If he dissolved it<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. the carcass of a clean bird.');"><sup>14</sup></span>

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מאי איריא קריש כי לא קריש נמי דאמר ריש לקיש

with fire (and gulped it down], he is unclean;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And renders unclean the clothes that he is wearing whilst swallowing it.');"><sup>15</sup></span>

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ציר שעל גבי ירק מצטרף לככותבת ביום הכפורים

but if in the sun, he is not unclean.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Naz. 50a.');"><sup>16</sup></span>

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התם משום יתובי דעתא הוא בכל דהו מיתבא דעתיה

Whereupon we put the questions is not the expression 'eating' written in connection with it?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. XVII, 15: And every soul ha eateth that which dieth of itself.');"><sup>17</sup></span>

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הכא משום איצטרופי הוא אי קריש מצטרף אי לא קריש לא מצטרף:

And Resh Lakish replied.

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והקיפה:

The verse says: Soul,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. XVII, 15: And every soul ha eateth that which dieth of itself.');"><sup>17</sup></span>

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מאי קיפה

to include one who drinks.

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אמר רבה

But if so, even (if he dissolved it) in the sun he should also [be unclean]? - In the sun it becomes putrid.

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פירמא

Now this<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That one who drinks forbidden food that was melted down is also liable.');"><sup>18</sup></span>

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א"ל אביי

was necessary [to have been taught with regard to each of these cases].

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הוא עצמו יטמא טומאת אוכלין

For if the Divine Law had stated it only with regard to the fat, one could not have inferred the same with regard to leavened bread, for (in the case of the former) there was never a moment when it was permitted;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Forbidden fat in an animal has always been forbidden from the birth of the animal, whereas leavened bread is forbidden only during Passover, but before the festival, it was permitted.');"><sup>19</sup></span>

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אלא אמר רב פפא

nor could one have inferred the same with regard to the carcass [of a clean bird], for the former is punishable by kareth.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. forbidden fat, but there is not the penalty of kareth for eating nebelah.');"><sup>20</sup></span>

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תבלין

And had the Divine Law stated it only with regard to leavened bread, one could not have inferred the same with regard to the fat, for the former does not admit of any exception;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Whereas the fat in certain cases is permitted, v. infra.');"><sup>21</sup></span>

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תנן התם

nor could one have inferred the same with regard to the carcass [of a clean bird], for the former is punishable by kareth.

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הקפה את הדם ואכלו או שהמחה את החלב וגמעו חייב

And had the Divine Law stated it only with regard to the carcass [of a clean bird], one could not have inferred the same with regard to the others, for the former conveys uncleanness.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., is itself a source of uncleanness, whereas forbidden fat and leavened bread have no uncleanness in themselves.');"><sup>22</sup></span>

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בשלמא הקפה את הדם ואכלו כיון דאקפיה אחשובי אחשביה

[Clearly] one case could not have been inferred from the other, but could not one case have been inferred from the other two? - Which could have been inferred?

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אלא המחה את החלב וגמעו אכילה כתיבא ביה והא לאו אכילה היא

Had not the Divine Law stated it with regard to the carcass [of a clean bird] but this latter was to be inferred from the others,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. fat and leavened bread.');"><sup>23</sup></span>

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אמר ר"ל

[such inference could be refuted thus]: It is so with the other cases since they are punishable by kareth.

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אמר קרא (ויקרא ז, כ) נפש לרבות את השותה

And had not the Divine Law stated it with regard to leavened bread but this latter was to be inferred from the others,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. fat and the carcass of a clean bird.');"><sup>24</sup></span>

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תניא נמי גבי חמץ כה"ג

[such inference could be refuted thus], it is so with the other cases since th were never permitted at any time.

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המחהו וגמעו אם חמץ הוא ענוש כרת אם מצה היא אין אדם יוצא בה ידי חובתו בפסח

And had not the Divine Law stated it with regard to the forbidden fat but this latter was to be inferred from the others,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. leavened bread and the carcass of a clean bird.');"><sup>25</sup></span>

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בשלמא אם מצה היא אין אדם יוצא בה ידי חובתו בפסח (דברים טז, ג) לחם עוני אמר רחמנא והאי לאו לחם עוני הוא אלא אם חמץ הוא ענוש כרת אכילה כתיבא ביה

[such inference could be refuted thus]: It is so with the other cases since they admit of no exceptions; will you, then, say the same of the forbidden fat which admits of an exception? - What is this [exception]?

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אמר ריש לקיש

Is it that the forbidden fat of cattle is permitted to the Most High?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The forbidden fat of a sacrifice is permitted to, i.e., is offered upon, the altar.');"><sup>26</sup></span>

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אמר קרא (שמות יב, טז) נפש לרבות את השותה

But a carcass [of a bird], too, is permitted to the Most High, namely, a bird whose head has been nipped off!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Ordinarily this method of killing the bird would render it nebelah, nevertheless it is acceptable as a sacrifice; hence the law of nebelah admits of an exception, like the fat.');"><sup>27</sup></span>

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ותניא נמי גבי נבלת עוף טהור כה"ג

Or is it that the fat of a wild animal [is permitted] to a common man?

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המחהו באור טמא בחמה טהור והוינן בה אכילה כתיב ביה

But a carcass, namely, the sin-offering of a bird whose head has been nipped off, is also permitted to priests!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The priests may eat the flesh of this bird sacrifice, hence there is an exception to the law of nebelah even in respect of the eating thereof.');"><sup>28</sup></span>

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אמר ריש לקיש

- In truth, [the exception is that] the fat of a wild animal [is permitted] to a common man, and as for your difficulty from the case of the priests, [it must be remembered that] the priests enjoy this privilege from the table of the Most High.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' It is only to the Most High that nebelah is permitted, even though priests may enjoy it as guests of the Divine table; there is no case, however, of nebelah being permitted to a common man as of law.');"><sup>29</sup></span>

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אמר קרא (ויקרא ז, כה) נפש לרבות את השותה

Wherefore is the following teaching necessary: '[It is written,] The unclean,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. XI, 31: These are the unclean unto you among all that creep. The definite article before 'unclean' is obviously superfluous, and it therefore serves to indicate that the extracts and juices from creeping things are included within the prohibition. V. supra 112b.');"><sup>30</sup></span>

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אי הכי בחמה נמי

to signify that the juice and the broth and the sediment of these are forbidden'?

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בחמה איסרוחי מסרח

Surely it could have been inferred from the above cases?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For we have learnt above in respect of three cases (viz., the forbidden fat, leavened bread and the carcass of a clean bird) that a solution of the forbidden substance and also the extracts and juices therefrom are forbidden; and all cases could be inferred from these.');"><sup>31</sup></span>

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וצריכי דאי כתב רחמנא חלב חמץ לא אתי מיניה שכן לא היתה לו שעת הכושר

- It is necessary, for had not the Divine Law stated it expressly<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' With regard to creeping things.');"><sup>32</sup></span>

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נבלה לא אתי מיניה שכן ענוש כרת

I would have said: 'It is enough if the inferred law is as strict as that from which it is inferred', and as there [a minimum of] an olive's bulk is essential, so here a minimum of an olive's bulk is essential.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Whereas the law, is established that the eating of a lentil's bulk of a creeping thing renders one liable.');"><sup>33</sup></span>

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ואי כתב רחמנא חמץ חלב לא אתי מיניה שכן לא הותר מכללו

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ונבלה לא אתיא מיניה שכן ענוש כרת

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ואי כתב רחמנא בנבלה הנך לא אתיא מינה שכן מטמאה

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חדא מחדא לא אתיא תיתי חדא מתרתי

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הי תיתי

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לא לכתוב רחמנא בנבלה ותיתי מהנך מה להנך שכן ענוש כרת

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לא לכתוב רחמנא בחמץ ותיתי מהנך מה להנך שכן לא היתה להן שעת הכושר

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לא לכתוב רחמנא בחלב ותיתי מהנך מה להנך שכן לא הותר מכללן תאמר בחלב שהותר מכללו

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ומאי ניהו

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אילימא חלב בהמה לגבוה נבלה נמי אשתראי מליקת עוף לגבוה

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ואלא חלב חיה להדיוט נבלה נמי אשתראי מליקה דחטאת העוף לכהנים

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לעולם חלב חיה להדיוט ודקא קשיא לך כהנים כהנים משלחן גבוה קא זכו

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והא דתניא

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הטמאים לאסור צירן ורוטבן וקיפה שלהן למה לי

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ליגמר מהני

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צריכי דאי לא כתב רחמנא הוה אמינא

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דיו לבא מן הדין להיות כנדון מה התם עד דאיכא כזית אף הכא נמי עד דאיכא כזית

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