Eruvin 66

Chapter 66

א ורבי סבר לה כר' מאיר וסבר לה כר' יהודה

1 and Rabbi adopts the same view as that of R'Meir and also the same as that of R'Judah. He adopts the same view as that of R'Meir who ruled: 'Excavation may be imagined so that [the prescribed measurements] may be obtained',<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'to complete', v. supra 11b. Hence it is permissible to add the width of the basket to that of the tree to impart to the latter the status of a private domain. It is not regarded, however, as a private domain in all respects since the prescribed width does not extend below the basket where the width of the tree is less than four handbreadths.');">1 and he also adopts the same view as that of R'Judah who ruled: It is necessary that the 'erub [shall rest] on a spot that is four [handbreadths wide]', which is not the case here.2 What [is the source of the ruling of] R'Judah? - It was taught: R'Judah ruled: If a man inserted a pole in [the ground of] a public domain and deposited his 'erub on it, his 'erub is effective [if the pole was] ten [handbreadths] high and four [handbreadths] wide;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Because the area of four cubits in the public domain which he had acquired by making his abode for the Sabbath at the base of the pole, is in respect of the 'erub regarded as a private domain which extends from the earth to the sky and in consequence of which he may move his 'erub' from the top of the pole, which is a private domain, to its base at the side of which he made his abode.');">3

ב סבר לה כרבי מאיר דאמר חוקקין להשלים

2 otherwise4 his 'erub is ineffective. On the contrary! Are not he and his 'erub [in the latter case]5 in the same domain?6

ג וסבר לה כר' יהודה דאמר בעינן עירוב על גבי מקום ארבעה וליכא

3 It is this rather that he7 meant: [If the pole8 was] ten [handbreadths] high it is necessary9 that at its top it shall be four [handbreadths wide],<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Such a width constitutes a private domain and, as explained supra n. 5, the 'erub is effective. If the width, however, is less than four handbreadths the 'erub, resting in no 'domain' and being suspended, so to speak, in the air, must be ineffective.');">10

ד מאי רבי יהודה דתניא רבי יהודה אומר נעץ קורה ברשות הרבים והניח עירובו עליה גבוה י' ורחבה ד' עירובו עירוב ואם לאו אין עירובו עירוב

4 but if it was not tell [handbreadths] high it is not necessary for its top to be four [handbreadths wide].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. even if it is less than four handbreadths wide the 'erub is effective, since an object suspended within ten handbreadths from the ground is deemed to be resting on the ground itself.');">11 In agreement with whose view?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Did Rabina (spurn 33a ad fin.) lay down that, though the width of the basket brings up a portion of a tree to the prescribed size of four handbreadths, the status of a private domain cannot be imparted to that portion unless the full height of the tree from the ground to that Spot was four handbreadths wide.');">12 - [It is apparently] not in agreement with that of R'Jose son of R'Judah, seeing that it was taught: R'Jose son of R'Judah ruled: If a man inserted a reed in [the ground of] a public domain and on the top of it he fixed a basket,13 any one who threw14

ה אדרבה הוא ועירובו במקום אחד אלא הכי קאמר גבוה עשרה צריך שיהא בראשה ארבעה אין גבוהה עשרה אין צריך שיהא בראשה ארבעה

5 something which came to a rest on the top of it incurs guilt?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Shah. 5a, 101a; because the basket has the status of a private domain though the reed below it is less than the prescribed width. Is it likely, however, that Rabina's view is in disagreement with that of R. Jose son of R. Judah?');">15 - It16 may be said [to be in agreement] even [with that of] R'Jose son of R'Judah, for there17 the sides18

ו כמאן דלא כרבי יוסי ברבי יהודה דתניא רבי יוסי ברבי יהודה אומר נעץ קנה ברשות הרבים והניח בראשו טרסקל וזרק ונח על גביו חייב

6 surround [the reed],<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And the rule of 'gud ahith' by which the sides are assumed to descend to the ground may well be applied. The top of the reed may, therefore, be regarded as a private domain.');">19 but here20 the sides18 do not surround [the tree].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If the spot on which the 'erub rested were to be regarded as a private domain two processes would have to be postulated, that (a) the tree is imagined to be cut away so as to make up with the basket the prescribed area of four handbreadths and (b) that the sides of the basket descended to the ground. The assumption of two such processes, however, is inadmissible even according to R. Jose son of R. Judah. (For harpns ,htu another interpretation v. Rash s.v., a.l.) .');">21

ז אפילו תימא רבי יוסי ברבי יהודה התם הדרן מחיצתא הכא לא הדרן מחיצתא

7 R'Jeremiah22 replied:23 A basket is different24 since one might incline it and so25

ח רבי ירמיה אמר שאני כלכלה הואיל ויכול לנטותה ולהביאה לתוך עשרה

8 lower it within ten [handbreadths from the ground].26 R'Papa sitting at his studies was discoursing on this traditional teaching,27 when Rab B'Shaba pointed out to him the following objection: [We learned, he said]: How is one28 to proceed?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Were the 'erub to be deposited on the festival eve only, it might sometimes be lost during the day before the Sabbath commenced and the man, though provided for during the festival at the commencement of which the 'erub was in existence, would remain unprovided for during the Sabbath day. ch,n ufhkun');">29

ט יתיב רב פפא וקא אמר להא שמעתא איתיביה רב בר שבא לרב פפא כיצד הוא עושה מוליכו בראשון ומחשיך עליו ונוטלו ובא לו בשני מחשיך עליו ואוכלו ובא לו

9 He arranges [for the 'erub'] to be carried [by a deputy30 to the required spot] on the firs day,31 and, having remained there with it until dusk,32 he takes it [with him]33 and goes away.34 On the second day35 he [again] comes [with it] and keeps it there until dusk32 when he may consume it<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since the 'erub already served its purpose. He cannot again carry it away with him, as he did on the evening of the festival, since carrying in a public domain is forbidden on the Sabbath.');">36 and go away.37

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