Gittin 129

Chapter 129

א כעין דאורייתא תקון
1 the force of rules of the Torah. What could the other say to this? — That the Rabbis gave to their regulations the force of rules of the Torah in matters which have some basis in the Torah, but not in a matter which has no basis in the Torah.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Like that of carrying from one domain into another in an alley-way. ');"><sup>1</sup></span>
ב ואידך כי אמרינן כל דתקון רבנן כעין דאורייתא תקון במילתא דאית לה עיקר מה"ת אבל מילתא דלית לה עיקר מן התורה לא
2 R. 'Awia raised an objection: What device may be adopted [to avoid paying an extra fifth]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The rule was that if a man redeemed his second tithe (which otherwise had to he taken to Jerusalem), he had to add a fifth to its value, but not if he redeemed someone else's. ');"><sup>2</sup></span>
ג מתיב רב אויא מערימין על מעשר שני כיצד אומר אדם לבנו ובתו הגדולים לעבדו ושפחתו העברים הא לכם מעות הללו ופדו בהן מעשר שני זה (ואוכלו בלא חומש)
3 for second tithe? A man can say to his grown-up son and daughter, or to his Hebrew manservant or maidservant, Take this money and redeem with it this second tithe.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So as to give it back to him. Our texts add here in brackets the words, 'And he eats it without adding a fifth.' V. M.Sh. IV, 4. ');"><sup>3</sup></span>
ד האי שפחה ה"ד אי דאתיא ב' שערות מאי בעיא גביה אלא לאו דלא אתיא ב' שערות הכא במאי עסקינן במעשר בזמן הזה דרבנן
4 Now how are we to understand this maidservant? If she has grown two hairs, how comes she to be with him? We must say, therefore, that she has not grown two hairs?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And yet she can take possession of the tithe on his behalf, which seems to refute Samuel. ');"><sup>4</sup></span>
ה ואמה העבריה בזמן הזה מי איכא והתניא אין עבד עברי נוהג אלא בזמן שהיובל נוהג אלא בעציץ שאינו נקוב דרבנן
5 — We are speaking here of tithe in the present epoch,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since the destruction of the Temple. ');"><sup>5</sup></span>
ו אמר רבא ג' מדות בקטן צרור וזורקו אגוז ונוטלו זוכה לעצמו ואין זוכה לאחרים וכנגדן בקטנה מתקדשת למיאון
6 which is Rabbinical. But is the rule regarding a Hebrew maidservant in force in the present epoch? Has it not been taught: 'The laws relating to a Hebrew servant are in force only when the Jubilee is observed'? — We must therefore say that [it refers to tithe from] a pot which has no hole at the bottom,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So that the earth in it is not attached to the soil. ');"><sup>6</sup></span>
ז הפעוטות מקחן מקח וממכרן ממכר במטלטלין וכנגדן בקטנה מתגרשת בקידושי אביה
7 [the rule regarding] which is Rabbinical.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Even in the epoch of the Jubilee. ');"><sup>7</sup></span>
ח הגיעו לעונת נדרים נדריהן נדר והקדשן הקדש וכנגדן בקטנה חולצת ולמכור בנכסי אביו עד שיהא בן עשרים:
8 Raba said: There are three grades in a child.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In case of a boy, under thirteen years and one day. ');"><sup>8</sup></span>
ט <big><strong>מתני׳</strong></big> קטנה שאמרה התקבל לי גיטי אינו גט עד שיגיע גט לידה לפיכך אם רצה הבעל לחזור יחזור שאין קטן עושה שליח
9 [If on being given] a stone he throws it away but [on being given] a nut he takes it, he can take possession for himself but not for others. A girl of corresponding age can be betrothed so effectively as not to be released [on becoming of age] without definitely repudiating the betrothal.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Mi'un, the refusal of a woman to continue the work contracted by her, a fatherless girl, during her minority. Such a refusal annuls the marriage, but if she is betrothed at a younger age, the betrothal automatically lapses on her becoming of age. ');"><sup>9</sup></span>
י ואם אמר לו אביה צא והתקבל לבתי גיטה אם רצה לחזור לא יחזור
10 Pe'utoth<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Young children from six to eight or nine, according to their intelligence. V. supra 59a. ');"><sup>10</sup></span>
יא האומר תן גט זה לאשתי במקום פלוני ונתנו לה במקום אחר פסול הרי היא במקום פלוני ונתנו לה במקום אחר כשר
11 can buy and sell movables with legal effect, and a girl of the corresponding age can be divorced from a betrothal contracted by her father.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., if she is an orphan she can receive the divorce herself. ');"><sup>11</sup></span>
יב האשה שאמרה התקבל לי גיטי במקום פלוני וקיבלו לה במקום אחר פסול ר' אלעזר מכשיר הבא לי גיטי ממקום פלוני והביאו לה ממקום אחר כשר:
12 When they reach the age at which vows are tested,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the case of a boy, at twelve years and one day, and eleven years and one day with a girl. If they make a vow at this age, they are examined to see whether they understand the nature of their vow. ');"><sup>12</sup></span>
יג <big><strong>גמ׳</strong></big> ורבי אלעזר מאי שנא רישא דלא פליג ומאי שנא סיפא דפליג
13 their vows and their sanctifications are effective, and a girl of corresponding age performs <i>halizah</i>.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If the brother of her betrothed dies without children. ');"><sup>13</sup></span>
יד איהו דמדעתיה מגרש קפיד איהי דבעל כרחה מתגרשת מראה מקום היא לו:
14 The [landed] property of his [deceased] father, however, he cannot sell till he is twenty.
טו <big><strong>מתני׳</strong></big> הבא לי גיטי אוכלת בתרומה עד שיגיע גט לידה התקבל לי גיטי אסורה לאכול בתרומה מיד התקבל לי גיטי במקום פלוני אוכלת בתרומה עד שיגיע גט לאותו מקום ר"א אוסר מיד:
15 <b><i>MISHNAH</i></b>. IF A YOUNG GIRL<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A ketannah. Less than twelve years and a day old. ');"><sup>14</sup></span>
טז <big><strong>גמ׳</strong></big> וגיטא מיהא הוי והאמרת רישא לא הוי גיטא
16 SAYS [TO AN AGENT], RECEIVE MY GET FOR ME, IT IS NO GET TILL IT REACHES HER HAND. CONSEQUENTLY IF [THE HUSBAND] WISHES TO RETRACT HE IS [TILL THEN] AT LIBERTY TO RETRACT, SINCE A MINOR CANNOT APPOINT AN AGENT. IF HER FATHER SAID TO HIM, GO AND RECEIVE MY DAUGHTER'S DIVORCE FOR HER, THE HUSBAND [AFTER GIVING IT TO HIM] IS NOT AT LIBERTY TO RETRACT.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And the Get is effective as soon as it comes into his hand. ');"><sup>15</sup></span>
יז לא צריכא דאמרה ליה התקבל לי גיטא במתא מחסיא וזימנין דמשכחת ליה בבבל וה"ק ליה משקל כל היכא דמשכחת ליה שקליה מיניה
17 IF A MAN SAYS, GIVE THIS GET TO MY WIFE IN SUCH-AND-SUCH A PLACE AND HE GIVES IT TO HER IN AN OTHER PLACE, [THE GET IS] INVALID.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For the reason, v. infra. ');"><sup>16</sup></span> [IF HE SAYS,] SHE IS IN SUCH-AND-SUCH A PLACE, AND HE GIVES IT TO HER IN ANOTHER PLACE, [IT IS] VALID. IF A WOMAN SAYS, RECEIVE MY GET IN SUCH-AND-SUCH A PLACE AND HE RECEIVES IT FOR HER IN ANOTHER PLACE, [IT IS] INVALID. R. ELEAZAR,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Var. lec. R. Eliezer. ');"><sup>17</sup></span> HOWEVER, DECLARES IT VALID. [IF HE SAYS,] BRING ME MY GET FROM SUCH-AND-SUCH A PLACE AND HE BRINGS IT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, [IT IS] VALID. <b><i>GEMARA</i></b>. Why does R. Eleazar make a distinction between the first ruling,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That if the husband told him to give the Get in one place and he gave it in another, it is invalid. ');"><sup>18</sup></span> which he does not dispute and the second ruling, which he does dispute? — The husband who divorces of his own free will, [when he specifies the place] is particular;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Because he does not want himself to be talked about in another place. ');"><sup>19</sup></span> the wife, who is divorced willy-nilly, [when she specifies the place] is merely giving a direction.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And similarly if the husband says, She is in such-and-such a place. ');"><sup>20</sup></span> <b><i>MISHNAH</i></b>. [IF A WOMAN SAYS TO AN AGENT], BRING ME MY GET, SHE MAY EAT <i>TERUMAH</i><span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Glos. If she is the wife of a priest. ');"><sup>21</sup></span> TILL THE GET REACHES HER HAND. [IF, HOWEVER, SHE SAYS,] RECEIVE FOR ME MY GET, SHE IS FORBIDDEN TO EAT <i>TERUMAH</i> IMMEDIATELY.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Because the Get becomes effective as soon as it reaches his hand, and he may meet the husband soon after he leaves her. ');"><sup>22</sup></span> [IF SHE SAYS,] RECEIVE FOR ME MY GET IN SUCH-AND-SUCH A PLACE, SHE CAN EAT <i>TERUMAH</i> TILL THE GET REACHES THAT PLACE. R. ELEAZAR<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Var. lec. R. Eliezer. ');"><sup>23</sup></span> SAYS THAT SHE IS FORBIDDEN IMMEDIATELY. GEMARA [Although he receives the Get in another place] nevertheless [you say here] that it is a Get, whereas previously<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the preceding Mishnah. ');"><sup>24</sup></span> it was stated that it would not be a Get?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' According to the Rabbis. ');"><sup>25</sup></span> — This ruling applies to a case where, for instance, she said, Receive my Get for me in Matha Mehasia,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A suburb of Sura. ');"><sup>26</sup></span> but sometimes you may find him in Babylon.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the neighbourhood of Sura, v. supra p. 17, n. 3. ');"><sup>27</sup></span> What she means therefore is, Take it from him wherever you find him,