Kiddushin 110

תהי בה ר' יוחנן וכי אומרים לו לאדם עמוד וחטא בשביל שתזכה אלא א"ר יוחנן ממתין לה עד שתומם ומייתי שתי בהמות ומתנה

Now, R'Johanan was astonished thereat:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' At R. Oshaia's explanation, supra a, top.');">¹</span> is then a man bidden, 'Arise and sin, that you may achieve merit!'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For even if deliberate conversion is effective in respect of intrinsic sanctity, it is nevertheless forbidden; Men. 101a.');">²</span> But, said R'Johanan, we wait until it is blemished;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' When it loses its intrinsic sanctity - i.e., it may no longer be sacrificed, and as such must be redeemed, whereby it becomes hullin.');">³</span>

אמר מר זכרים עולות דילמא תודה היא דמייתי נמי תודה והא בעיא לחם דמייתי נמי לחם

then two animals are brought, and a stipulation made.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. p. 277, n. 1.');">⁴</span> The Master said: 'Males are burnt-offerings.' But perhaps it is a thanksgiving-offering?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which may likewise be a male.');">⁵</span>

ודילמא אשם הוא אשם בן שתי שנים ואישתכח בן שנה ודילמא אשם מצורע הוא אשם נזיר הוא לא שכיחי

- A thanksgiving-offering too is brought.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., two animals are sanctified; cf. p. 277, n. 1.');">⁶</span> But then loaves are required?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Lev, VII, 2.');">⁷</span> - Loaves too are brought.

ודילמא פסח הוא פסח בזמנו מזהר זהירי ביה ושלא בזמנו שלמים הוא

Yet perhaps it is a guilt-offering?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And that cannot be settled by bringing a third, because a guilt-offering cannot be vowed but must be incurred by sin.');">⁸</span> - A guilt-offering requires a two year old [animal], whereas a yearling was found. Then perhaps it is a guilt-offering of a leper or a nazir?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Glos. These were yearlings.');">⁹</span>

ודילמא בכור ומעשר נינהו למאי הילכתא למיכלינהו במומן הכי נמי במומן מתאכלי

- These are rare. Yet perhaps it is a Passover sacrifice? - One takes great care of the Passover sacrifice in its season,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Animals were separated for that purpose on the tenth of Nisan and sacrificed on the fourteenth. During this time they were carefully guarded, and could not have strayed.');">¹⁰</span> and when not in its season<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., if these are not sacrificed then.');">¹¹</span>

אמר מר נקבות זבחי שלמים דילמא תודה היא דמייתי תודה והא בעינן לחם דמייתי נמי לחם

it is a peace - offering.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which he does bring.');">¹²</span> Yet perhaps it is a firstling or tithe? - In what respect? That it may be eaten when blemished?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., the fear that it may be a firstling or tithe can affect only the question of their redemption when blemished; for these cannot be redeemed, even when blemished, but must be eaten in semi-sanctity, i.e., they must not be killed in the general abattoirs nor weighed with the ordinary weights, in order to emphasize their character.');">¹³</span>

ודילמא חטאת היא חטאת בת שנתה ואישתכח בת שתי שנים ודילמא חטאת שעברה שנתה לא שכיח

Here too, it is eaten when blemished.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the same manner as firstlings and tithes.');">¹⁴</span> The Master said: 'Females are peace-offerings.' But perhaps it is a thanksgiving-offering? - He brings a thanksgiving-offering.

אשתכח בת שנתה מאי תניא חנניא בן חכינאי אומר עז בת שנתה לחטאת לחטאת סלקא דעתך אלא אמר אביי כחטאת כונסה לכיפה והיא מתה מאליה

But then loaves are required? - Loaves too are brought. But perhaps it is a sin-offering? - A sin-offering is a yearling, whereas a two year old was found. Yet perhaps it is a sin-offering which has passed its year?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Having been lost a long time.');">¹⁵</span>

תנו רבנן אין לוקחים בהמה במעות מעשר שני

- That is rare. Then what if a yearling is found? - It was taught: Hanina B'Hakinai said: A yearling she-goat is [sacrificed] as a sin-offering.' As a sin-offering' - can you think so!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' It may not be one, nor is a stipulation possible (v. p. 277, n. 1) , since a sin-offering cannot be vowed.');">¹⁶</span> - But, said Abaye, it is [treated] as a sin-offering:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which for any reason may not be sacrificed, e.g., if its owner dies.');">¹⁷</span> it is led into a stable and left to perish. Our Rabbis taught: An animal may not be bought with second-tithe money;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Without Jerusalem. Either because it may become emaciated through the journey (one explanation by Rashi) , or for fear that its owner may be tempted to keep it at home for breeding (Tosaf.) .');">¹⁸</span>