Sukkah 15

Chapter 15

א הני מילי בעיגולא אבל בריבועא בעיא טפי
1 That applies only to a circle, but in the case of a square, a greater perimeter is required.
ב מכדי כמה מרובע יותר על העיגול רביע בשיתסר סגי
2 But consider: By how much is a square greater than its [inscribed] circle? By a quarter. Should it then not suffice if only sixteen [men can be seated around it]?
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3 That is so in the case of a circle inscribed within a square, but if a square is to be inscribed within a circle a greater circumference is required on account of the projection of the corners....
ד מכדי כל אמתא בריבועא אמתא ותרי חומשא באלכסונא בשיבסר נכי חומשי סגיא לא דק
4 But consider: If the side of a square is a cubit, its diagonal is approximately one and two fifths cubits. Should not then [a circumference equivalent to] sixteen and four fifths [cubits] suffice? [R. Johanan] gave only an approximate figure.
ה אימור דאמרינן לא דק פורתא טובא מי אמרינן לא דק
5 Say that we say that [where the discrepancy is] small he might approximate, but could such an assumption be made [where the discrepancy is] big?
ו א"ל מר קשישא בריה דרב חסדא לרב אשי מי סברת גברא באמתא יתיב תלתא גברי בתרתי אמתא יתבי כמה הוו להו שיתסר אנן שיבסר נכי חומשא בעינן לא דק
6 Mar Kashisha the son of R. Hisda said to R. Ashi: Do you think that a man occupies one cubit? . [The fact is that] three men occupy two cubits.. How much then does this [amount to for twenty-four men]?. Sixteen cubits; and we [really] demand here sixteen and four fifths. [Because, as has been said, R. Yohanan] gave only an approximate figure...
ז אימור דאמרינן לא דק לחומרא לקולא מי אמרינן לא דק
7 Say that we give approximate figures in order to create a where this makes the law lenient?
ח אמר ליה רב אסי לרב אשי לעולם גברא באמתא יתיב ורבי יוחנן מקום גברי לא קחשיב
8 R. Assi said to R. Ashi: In truth, a man occupies a cubitspace, but R. Yohanan does not include the space occupied by the men.
ט כמה הוו להו תמני סרי בשיבסר נכי חומשא סגיא היינו דלא דק ולחומרא לא דק
9 How many [cubits] does this[amount to]? Eighteen; while sixteen and four-fifths would be enough. That is [then] what was meant [when it was stated] that he only gave an approximate figure; and in this case it is in the direction of stringency.
י רבנן דקיסרי ואמרי לה דייני דקיסרי אמרי עיגולא דנפיק מגו ריבועא רבעא
10 The rabbis of Caesarea (and some say, the judges of Caesarea) say: The circumference of a circle inscribed in a square is a quarter;