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Temurah 62

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ולדן וחלבן אסור לאחר פדיונן והשוחטן בחוץ חייב

THEIR ISSUE AND MILK ARE FORBIDDEN<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If their mother became blemished.');"><sup>1</sup></span>

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אין נותנין מהן לאומנין בשכרן מה שאין כן בקדשי בדק הבית

AFTER THEIR REDEMPTION;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Scripture saying 'flesh', thus excluding milk. The case of the issue is where the pregnancy took place before redemption and the birth after redemption, but where the pregnancy took place after redemption, it would be permissible. But in the case of dedications for the repairs of the Temple, even if the pregnancy took place before redemption, it would be permissible, for the consecration was for their value and therefore the holiness is not so stringent.');"><sup>2</sup></span>

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יש בקדשי בדק הבית

IF ONE KILLS THEM WITHOUT [THE TEMPLE COURT] HE IS GUILTY [OF A TRANSGRESSION]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In connection with the killing without the confines of the Temple.');"><sup>3</sup></span>

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שסתם הקדשות לבדק הבית הקדש בדק הבית חל על הכל ומועלין בגידוליהן ואין בהן הנאה לבעלים

AND WAGES ARE NOT PAID FROM THEM<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' From the money assigned for dedications for the altar.');"><sup>4</sup></span>

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<big><strong>גמ׳</strong></big> וכללא הוא דכל קדשי מזבח עושין תמורה

TO ARTISANS,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For helping to build something in the Temple. Wages are paid, however, from dedications for the repairs of the Temple.');"><sup>5</sup></span>

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והרי עופות דקדשי מזבח הן ותנן

WHICH IS NOT THE CASE WITH DEDICATIONS FOR TEMPLE REPAIRS.

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המנחות והעופות אין עושין תמורה

THERE ARE [REGULATIONS] WHICH APPLY TO DEDICATIONS FOR THE REPAIRS OF THE TEMPLE [WHICH ARE NOT FOUND ELSEWHERE], SINCE UNSPECIFIED DEDICATIONS<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Where it is not specified whether for repairs of the Temple or for the altar.');"><sup>6</sup></span>

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כי קתני אבהמה

GO TO THE REPAIRS OF THE TEMPLE, DEDICATION FOR THE REPAIRS OF THE TEMPLE TAKES EFFECT ON ALL THINGS,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Even upon unclean animals, stones or wood.');"><sup>7</sup></span>

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והרי ולד קדשי מזבח הוא ותנן

THE LAW OF SACRILEGE<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The unlawful use of sacred things.');"><sup>8</sup></span>

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אין הולד עושה תמורה

APPLIES TO THEIR PRODUCTS,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If one dedicated an animal, the value of which goes for the repairs of the Temple, its milk must not be used or if one dedicated a hen, its eggs must not be used unlawfully, unlike the case of the milk and eggs belonging to dedications for the altar.');"><sup>9</sup></span>

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הא מני ר' יהודה היא דאמר

AND THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO BE DERIVED FROM THEM FOR THE PRIEST.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Marginal Gloss. Cur. edd.: 'to the owners'. Whereas with dedications for the altar in the majority of cases the flesh is eaten by the priests. and even in the case of a burnt-offering the skin is used by the priest.');"><sup>10</sup></span>

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ולד עושה תמורה

<big><b>GEMARA: </b></big>Now is this a general rule, that all dedications for the altar effect exchange?

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והרי תמורה עצמה דקדשי מזבח ותנן

Is there not a case of birds which are dedicated for the altar, and we have learnt: Meal-offerings and birds do not effect exchange? - [The Mishnah] speaks only of beasts.

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אין תמורה עושה תמורה כי

But is there not the case of the offspring [of a dedicated animal] which is a dedication for the altar, and we have learnt: The offspring [of a dedicated animal] does not effect exchange? - Our Mishnah represents the opinion of R'Judah who holds that the offspring can effect exchange.

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קתני אעיקר זיבחא

But is not the exchange itself a dedication for the altar, and we have learnt: One exchange cannot effect another exchange? - [The Mishnah] refers to original dedications.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The first dedication and not an exchange which is the second dedication arising from an exchange with the first.');"><sup>11</sup></span>

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השתא דאתית להכי אפי' תימא רבנן כי קתני אעיקר זיבחא

Now that you have arrived at this conclusion, you may even say that the Mishnah above will be in accordance also with the opinion of the Rabbis [the disputants of R'Judah], since it only refers to original dedications.

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ואין נותנין מהן לאומנין כו'

AND WAGES ARE NOT PAID FROM THEM TO ARTISANS etc. We infer that we do pay from the dedications for the repair of the Temple.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since I might have thought that one can, only use money set aside for Temple repairs for the purchase of stone and wood, which are actually used in the building and repairing of the Temple, but that it is forbidden to pay workmen with this money and it becomes hullin if used in that manner. There would then have to be a special fund donated for this purpose wherewith to pay workmen.');"><sup>12</sup></span>

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הא קדשי בדק הבית נותנין

[Whence do we derive this? ]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Inserted with Sh. Mek.');"><sup>13</sup></span>

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א"ר אבהו

Said R'Abbahu: Since Scripture says.

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דאמר קרא (שמות כה, ח) ועשו לי משלי

And let them make Me [a sanctuary],<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Ex. XXV, 8.');"><sup>14</sup></span>

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יש בקדשי בדק הבית כו'

[intimating] from what is Mine.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And is set aside for the sanctuary, i.e., from the monies dedicated for the building of the Temple.');"><sup>15</sup></span>

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אמר מר

THERE ARE [REGULATIONS] WHICH APPLY TO DEDICATIONS FOR THE REPAIRS OF THE TEMPLE;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For reading v. Sh. Mek.; cur. edd., 'The Master said'.');"><sup>16</sup></span>

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סתם הקדשות לבדק הבית וחל על הכל

UNSPECIFIED DEDICATIONS GO FOR THE REPAIRS OF THE TEMPLE.

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מאן תנא

Who is the Tanna who holds that unspecified dedications<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Implying even a dedicated animal (Rashi) .');"><sup>17</sup></span>

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א"ר חייא בר אבא א"ר יוחנן

go for the repairs of the Temple?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' v. Sh. Mek.');"><sup>18</sup></span>

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דלא כר' יהושע

- R'Hiyya B'Abba reported in the name of R'Johanan: It is not R'Joshua.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Var. lee.: It is R. Eliezer.');"><sup>19</sup></span>

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דתניא

For we learnt: If one dedicated his estate and he had among them animals fit for the altar, males and females, R'Eliezer says: The males are to be sold for the purpose of being used as burnt-offerings<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since unblemished dedications can never be excluded from being offered on the altar.');"><sup>20</sup></span>

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המקדיש נכסיו והיה בהן בהמה ראויה לגבי מזבח זכרים ונקבות

and the females are to be sold for the purpose of being used as peace-offerings and their monies, with the rest of the estate, are devoted to the repairs of the Temple.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For R. Eliezer holds that unspecified dedications go for the repair of the Temple even in the case of animals, except those which are fit for the altar.');"><sup>21</sup></span>

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רבי אליעזר אומר

R'Joshua, however, says: The males are themselves offered as burnt-offerings and the females are sold for the purpose of peace-offerings.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' We see consequently that according to R. Joshua anything fit for the altar is generally intended to be used for the altar unlike the opinion stated in the Mishnah; v. supra 20a.');"><sup>22</sup></span>

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זכרים ימכרו לצרכי עולות ונקבות ימכרו לצרכי שלמים ודמיהן יפלו עם שאר נכסים לבדק הבית

Burnt-offerings are purchased with their monies and the rest of the estate is devoted to the repairs of the Temple.

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רבי יהושע אומר

And this<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The interpretation of the Mishnah just given, that it will be according to the opinion of R. Eliezer and not of R. Joshua.');"><sup>23</sup></span>

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זכרים הן עצמן יקרבו עולות ונקבות ימכרו לצרכי שלמים ויביא בדמיהן עולות ושאר נכסים לבדק הבית

will differ from the opinion of R'Adda B'Ahabah [reporting Rab].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Inserted with Sh. Mek.');"><sup>24</sup></span>

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ופליגא דרב אדא בר אהבה דאמר רב אדא בר אהבה אמר רב

For R'Adda B'Ahabah reported in the name of Rab: In the case of a herd consisting altogether of male animals even R'Eliezer agrees,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That the dedications were meant for the altar.');"><sup>25</sup></span>

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בעדר שכולו זכרים אפי' ר' אליעזר מודה דלא שביק איניש קדשי מזבח ומקדיש לבדק הבית

since a man will not ignore dedications for the altar and make dedications for the repair of the Temple.

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לא נחלקו אלא בעדר שיש בו מחצה זכרים ומחצה נקבות ור' אליעזר סבר

The point at issue, however, is with reference to a herd where half were male [animals] and the other half female [animals].

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אין חולק את נדרו ומדנקבות לאו עולות זכרים נמי לאו עולות

R'Eliezer holds: A man does not divide his vow,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Half for one kind of dedication and the other half for a different kind of dedication.');"><sup>26</sup></span>

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ור' יהושע סבר

and since the female animals are not meant for burnt-offerings,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For burnt-offerings must be males.');"><sup>27</sup></span>

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חולק את נדרו

therefore even the male [animals] are also not meant for burnt-offerings.

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ל"א אמרי לה אמר רב אדא בר אהבה אמר רב

R'Joshua, however, says: A man does divide his vow.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Males for burnt-offerings and females for the value of burnt-offerings, since he cannot offer females for peace-offerings without redemption');"><sup>28</sup></span>

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בשלא הקדיש אלא בהמה אפי' ר"א מודה דלא שביק איניש קדשי מזבח ומקדיש לבדק הבית

Another version is current as follows: R'Adda B'Ahabah reported in the name of Rab: If he dedicated animals only, even R'Eliezer admits,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That unspecified dedications are for the altar. For although there are female animals, since all are fit for the altar, we may suppose that they are meant for the altar. Male animals are therefore offered as burnt-offerings and female animals are sold and with the money burnt-offerings are bought, as we can say that he dedicated them all for the altar.');"><sup>29</sup></span>

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לא נחלקו אלא כשיש שאר נכסים עמהן

since a man does not ignore dedications for the altar and make dedications for the repairs of the Temple.

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ור"א סבר

The point at issue, however, is where there is other property with them [the animals].

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אין אדם חולק את נדרו

R'Eliezer holding that one does not divide his vow, and since therefore the rest of the estate is not for dedications for the altar, the animals [of the estate] are also not for the altar; whereas R'Joshua says: A man does not divide his vow.

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מדשאר נכסים לא לקדשי מזבח בהמה נמי לא לקדשי מזבח

Now according to the latter version [of R'Adda B'Ahabah's teaching], it is in order to state [above]: Thei monies, together with the rest of the estate, go for the repair of the Temple.

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ורבי יהושע סבר

It is for this reason that it say 'together with the rest of the estate, go for the repair of the Temple'.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' As we are dealing with the case where there is other property in addition to animals.');"><sup>30</sup></span>

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אדם חולק את נדרו

But according to the first version [of R Adda's teaching],<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That in a herd where half were male animals and the other half were female animals, R. Eliezer holds that a man does not divide his vow, half for the altar and half for the Temple repairs, and even where there is no other estate and one can maintain that everything was meant for the altar');"><sup>31</sup></span>

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ודמיהן יפלו עם שאר נכסים לבדק הבית

let R'Eliezer say: They [the monies] shall go to the repairs of the Temple?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Why does it then say: 'They (their monies) and the other property etc.', since often there is no other estate according to this version.');"><sup>32</sup></span>

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בשלמא ללישנא בתרא היינו דקתני עם שאר נכסים לבדק הבית אלא ללישנא קמא ליתני יפלו לבדק הבית

- Do in fact read so:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For reading v. Wilna Gaon Glosses.');"><sup>33</sup></span>

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תניא נמי הכי

And their monies go for the repair of the Temple.

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ודמיהן יפלו לבדק הבית

DEDICATIONS FOR THE REPAIRS OF THE TEMPLE TAKE EFFECT ON ALL THINGS.

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הקדש בדק הבית חל על הכל

What does this include<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The word ALL.');"><sup>34</sup></span>

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לאיתויי מאי

- Said Rabina: It includes the shavings [of a tree]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If a man dedicated the value of a tree for the repairs of the Temple, there is sacrilege in respect of the shavings.');"><sup>35</sup></span>

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אמר רבינא

and sproutings.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which come up in the winter and are used as manure.');"><sup>36</sup></span>

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לאיתויי שפויי וניבא

SACRILEGE APPLIES TO THEIR PRODUCTS.

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ומועלין בגידוליהן

What does this<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The products spoken of in the MISHNAH:');"><sup>37</sup></span>

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לאתויי מאי

include? - Said R'Papa: It includes the milk of dedicated animals<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Their value goes for the Temple repairs.');"><sup>38</sup></span>

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אמר רב פפא

and the eggs of turtle-doves, as we learnt: With regard to milk of dedicated animals and eggs of turtle-doves, one may not benefit from them nor does the law of sacrilege apply to them.

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לאתויי (בקדושת מזבח) חלב המוקדשין וביצי תורין

This only refers to dedications of the altar, but as regards dedications for repairs of the Temple.

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כדתניא

[e.g. , if one dedicated a hen,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For Temple repairs one would not consecrate something which is fit for the altar and a hen is not fit for the altar.');"><sup>39</sup></span>

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חלב המוקדשין וביצי תורין לא נהנין ולא מועלין

the law of sacrilege applies to its eggs; [if one dedicated the value of] a she-ass [ the repairs of the Temple], the law of sacrilege applies to its milk.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Although the animal is unclean, the holiness of the dedication for the repair of the Temple attaches to it as if it were a clean animal.');"><sup>40</sup></span>

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בד"א

And even according to the authority who holds that the law of sacrilege applies to the products of dedications for the altar, this only refers to products which are fit for the altar,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The offspring of a dedicated animal (Rashi) . Tosaf. explains that the term 'products' refers to the blood of sacrifices and the passage means this: And even according to the authority who holds that the law of sacrilege applies to 'products', i.e., the blood of a sacrifice, this only refers to blood which is fit to be sprinkled, but to 'products' like milk of dedicated animals and eggs of turtle-doves, the law of sacrilege does not apply.');"><sup>41</sup></span>

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בקדשי מזבח

but to products which are not fit for the altar the law of Sacrilege does not apply.

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אבל בקדשי בדק הבית הקדיש תרנגולת מועלין בביצתה חמורה מועלין בחלבה

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ואפילו למאן דאמר מועלין בגידולי מזבח ה"מ גידולין דחזו למזבח אבל גידולין דלא חזו למזבח אין מועלין בהן

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