כח ומה פסח שמותרו בא שלמים שחטו בזמנו לשום שלמים פסול שלמים שאין מותרן בא פסח אם שחטם לשם פסח בזמנו אינו דין שיהו פסולין
28 [Thus:] what is the reason of a sin-offering?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That it is invalid when not slaughtered for its own sake.');"><sup>18</sup></span> Because 'it is' is written in connection therewith; then In connection with a sinner's meal-offering too 'it is' written. Now according to the Rabbis, in respect of which law is a guilt-offering likened to a sin-offering? - To teach you: as a sin-offering requires laying on [of hands], so does a guilt-offering require laying on [of hands]. JOSEPH B'HONI SAID: SACRIFICES SLAUGHTERED [IN THE NAME OF A PASSOVER-OFFERING OR A SIN-OFFERING ARE INVALID]. R'Johanan said: Joseph B'Honi and R'Eliezer said the same thing.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' R. Eliezer too holds that other sacrifices slaughtered as a Passover-offering in its time or as a sin-offering at any time are invalid. R. Johanan deduces this anon.');"><sup>19</sup></span> Rabbah said: They disagree in respect of others slaughtered in the name of a sin-offering. For it was taught: A paschal lamb which has passed its year,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' It became a year old on the first of Nisan, and was then set aside for the Passover sacrifice. Since a year is the extreme limit for such (V. Ex. XII, 5: a male of the first year) , it automatically stands to be a peace-offering, being unfit for its original purpose.');"><sup>20</sup></span> and he [its owner] slaughtered it in its season,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e. , on the eve of Passover.');"><sup>21</sup></span> for its own purpose;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. as a Passover-offering. Thus he slaughtered a peace-offering as a Passover sacrifice.');"><sup>22</sup></span> and similarly, when a man slaughters other [sacrifices] as a Passover-offering in its season, - R'Eliezer disqualifies them;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' He infers this a minori: If an animal set aside for the Passover-offering is disqualified when slaughtered in its season (on the eve of Passover) as a peace-offering, though if left until after Passover it must be offered as such; then how much the more is a peace-offering disqualified if slaughtered on the eve of Passover as a Passover-offering, seeing that if left over and not brought as a peace-offering at the time appointed for same it cannot be brought as a Passover-offering on Passover eve.');"><sup>23</sup></span> while R, Joshua declares them valid. Said R'Joshua: If during the rest of the year, when it is not valid [if slaughtered] in its own name, yet others [slaughtered] in its name are valid;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For all sacrifices except the Passover-offering and the sin-offering are valid when slaughtered for a different purpose (supra 2a) .');"><sup>24</sup></span> then is it not logical that in its season, when it is valid [if slaughtered] in its own name, others [slaughtere in its name are valid? Said R'Eliezer to him: Yet perhaps the argument is to be reversed? If it is valid [when slaughtered] during the rest of the year in the name of another sacrifice,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. a peace-offering.');"><sup>25</sup></span> though it is not valid [if slaughtered then] in its own name; is it not logical that it should be valid [when slaughtered] in its season in the name of another sacrifice, seeing that it is valid [if slaughtered,then] in its own name; and thus a Passover-offering [slaughtered] on the fourteenth [of Nisan] under a different designation should be valid.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which however is obviously wrong. Hence by a reductio ad absurdum the deduction a minori is shewn to be inadmissible.');"><sup>26</sup></span> Now, would you say thus? [But in point of fact your a minori argument can be refuted thus:] As for others being valid during the rest of the year [when slaughtered] in its [sc. the Passover-offering's] name, that is because it is valid [when slaughtered then] in the name of other [sacrifices]; should then others [slaughtered] in its season<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' On the eve of Passover,');"><sup>27</sup></span> in its name be valid, seeing that it [the Passover-offering] is invalid [if slaughtered then] in name of others?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Surely not. From this R. Johanan deduces that just as R. Eliezer declares others unfit when slaughtered in the name of the Passover-offering, so are they unfit when slaughtered in the name of a sin-offering. For R. Eliezer's reason, as seen here, is because it (the Passover-offering) is unfit when slaughtered in the name of a different sacrifice, and this same holds good of the sin-offering too.');"><sup>28</sup></span> Said R'Joshua to him: If so, you lessen the strength of the Passover-offering and increase the strength of the peace-offering?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For at the proper season for peace-offerings (i.e., during the rest of the year) the Passover-offering if slaughtered as a peace-offering is fit; whereas at the season of the Passover-offering (on Passover eve) a peace-offering slaughtered in the name of a Passover-offering is unfit! Yet in fact while Scripture insists that the Passover-offering must be killed in its own name (V. supra 7b) , there is no such insistence with respect to the peace-offering. - 'Weaken' and 'strengthen' mean to weaken and strengthen the necessity for (or, the insistence on) slaughtering these sacrifices for nought but their own sake.');"><sup>29</sup></span> Subsequently R'Eliezer proposed a different argument: We find that a Passover remainder<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If an animal was dedicated for a Passover-offering, lost and refound after Passover.');"><sup>30</sup></span> comes as a peace-offering, whereas a peace-offering remainder does not come as a Passover-offering. Now if the Passover-offering, whose remainder comes as a peace-offering, is [nevertheless] unfit if one slaughters it in its season as a peace-offering; is it not logical that the peace-offering is unfit if slaughtered in the name of a Passover-offering in its season, seeing that its remainder does not come as a Passover-offering?