תלמוד על פסחים 40:28
Jerusalem Talmud Pesachim
And you233Continuation of the attack of R. Yose the Amora against the statement of the colleagues. are saying, the first amphora following Rebbi Yose and Rebbi Meïr will not agree234While this R. Yose’s argument in both texts it is clear from the following that the discussion is about the second of their statements, that R. Yose cannot agree with the ruling of Mishnah Terumot 8:8 and 8:10 about a barrel of pure heave wine which is breaking on top of a container of impure wine.? But did we not state:235“Lifting” is explained in Terumot Chapter 5. If heave falls into a container of profane produce of the same kind as the heave and the volume of the profane matter is less than 101 times that of the heave, the entire matter is forbidden to non-Cohanim. But if it is at least that amount, a volume equal to that of the heave which was lost can be lifted from the mixture and declared as replacement heave. Then the particles of the original heave in the mixture revert to profane status and become permitted to lay persons.
Mishnaiot Terumot 8:8,10: “If an amphora broke in the upper part of a wine press whose lower part was impure, R. Eliezer and R. Joshua agree that if one can save a quartarius from it, he shall save that in purity.… Rebbi Joshua said, this is not a case for which I have been warned not to make it impure …” When has this been said? Regarding a vat which contains enough to lift it. But for a vat which does not contain enough to lift it, it is forbidden to make any amount impure. And if it follows Rebbi Meïr, whether it is a vat which contains enough to lift it or a vat which does not contain enough to lift it, is it forbidden to make any amount impure?236Since R. Meïr permits to bring impurity to anything that later automatically would become impure. Babli 21a. In addition, from what we have stated: “Rebbi Yose said, this is not the implication,” nobody says “this is not” unless he agrees with the premise. How is that? Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abun said, there in order to care for the property of Jews237Mishnah Negaˋim 12:5. Babli 20b.; here what do you have? Does the Jew not lose money even here? For he needs to burn wood separately238This text is corrupt. The correct version is in Terumot: For he needs wood to burn each lot separately. and this separately? They worried about a big loss, they did not worry about a small loss. Rebbi Ḥananiah said before Rebbi Mana239In Terumot: R. Yose ben R. Abun said., explain it following him who said, from the words of Rebbi Aqiba and Rebbi Ḥanina the executive officer of the Cohanim; and one cannot infer anything240There is no inference to be drawn from the Mishnah in Pesaḥim which according to R. Meïr speaks about impurity and disqualification and in Terumot dealing with impurity and purity. R. Yose’s second objection to the colleagues is not proven..
Mishnaiot Terumot 8:8,10: “If an amphora broke in the upper part of a wine press whose lower part was impure, R. Eliezer and R. Joshua agree that if one can save a quartarius from it, he shall save that in purity.… Rebbi Joshua said, this is not a case for which I have been warned not to make it impure …” When has this been said? Regarding a vat which contains enough to lift it. But for a vat which does not contain enough to lift it, it is forbidden to make any amount impure. And if it follows Rebbi Meïr, whether it is a vat which contains enough to lift it or a vat which does not contain enough to lift it, is it forbidden to make any amount impure?236Since R. Meïr permits to bring impurity to anything that later automatically would become impure. Babli 21a. In addition, from what we have stated: “Rebbi Yose said, this is not the implication,” nobody says “this is not” unless he agrees with the premise. How is that? Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Abun said, there in order to care for the property of Jews237Mishnah Negaˋim 12:5. Babli 20b.; here what do you have? Does the Jew not lose money even here? For he needs to burn wood separately238This text is corrupt. The correct version is in Terumot: For he needs wood to burn each lot separately. and this separately? They worried about a big loss, they did not worry about a small loss. Rebbi Ḥananiah said before Rebbi Mana239In Terumot: R. Yose ben R. Abun said., explain it following him who said, from the words of Rebbi Aqiba and Rebbi Ḥanina the executive officer of the Cohanim; and one cannot infer anything240There is no inference to be drawn from the Mishnah in Pesaḥim which according to R. Meïr speaks about impurity and disqualification and in Terumot dealing with impurity and purity. R. Yose’s second objection to the colleagues is not proven..
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