Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Commentary for Kiddushin 142:6

וכי תימא עובד כוכבים ועבד הבא על בת ישראל הולד כשר ודילמא מהנך דכתיב בהו (עמוס ו, ד) השוכבים על מטות שן וסרוחים על ערסותם ואמר רבי יוסי בר' חנינא אלו בני אדם המשתינים מים בפני מטותיהם ערומים

'Do we know whence we are descended? ' he retorted.' Perhaps from those of whom it is written: They ravished the women in Zion, the maidens in the cities of Judah.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lam. V, 11.');"><sup>8</sup></span> And should you answer: If a heathen or slave has intercourse with the daughter of an Israelite, the issue is fit, - then perhaps [we are descended] from those of whom it is written, that lie upon beds of ivory, and stretch themselves [seruhim] upon their couches.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Amos VI, 4.');"><sup>9</sup></span>

Daf Shevui to Kiddushin

R. Yehudah does not seem to want to marry off his son because he cannot determine the lineage of the women around him. Ulla begins to point out that we too do not know our lineage. Perhaps we are descended from the Babylonians who raped Israelite women during the time when the First Temple was destroyed. R. Yehuda could respond that he holds that the offspring of a non-Jew and a Jewish woman is fit. Therefore, maybe we are pure.
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Daf Shevui to Kiddushin

In this colorful exchange, R. Abbahu ends up interpreting the verse about those taken captive as referring to people who act licentiously, committing adultery. Perhaps, Ulla says, we are descended from such people whose children are mamzerim.
In short, Ulla questions how R. Yehudah can be so sure about his lineage.
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