Commentary for Kiddushin 62:12
תנו רבנן חכם משנה שם אביו ושם רבו תורגמן אינו משנה לא שם אביו ולא שם רבו אבוה דמאן אילימא אבוה דמתורגמן אטו תורגמן לאו בר חיובא הוא
Assi', said he, 'you have determined to go; [may] the Omnipresent bring you back in peace.' Then he went before R'Eleazar and said to him, 'Perhaps, God forbid, he was angry? ' 'What [then] did he say to you? ' enquired he.' The Omnipresent bring you back in peace', was the answer.'
Rashi on Kiddushin
A Sage changes the name of his father, etc.: A Sage, who expounds a teaching in public and whispers [it] to the disseminator who orates [it], changes the name of his father and the name of his teacher. If he is coming to say a matter of law that his father or his teacher said, he whispers to the disseminator, "This is what my father, my teacher said; this is what my master, my teacher said."
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Rashi on Kiddushin
But the disseminator: The one who orates it to the public does not change [the name], but rather calls him by his name and says, "This is what x said."
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Rashi on Kiddushin
Whose father: Does the disseminator not change.
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Rashi on Kiddushin
If we say the father of the disseminator: If the Sage whispers a matter of law in the name of the father of the disseminator to orate [it] to the public in the name of the one that said it, he would not change [it]; to say, "This is what my father, my teacher said." Rather he would call him by his name.
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Rashi on Kiddushin
Is that to say the disseminator is not obligated: [Is] he [not obligated] to honor his father.
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Daf Shevui to Kiddushin
When quoting a tradition in the name of his father or teacher, a sage should not say his name. This is considered disrespectful. But when the meturgeman, sort of a loudspeaker who would say the sage’s words in a very loud voice, quotes the tradition he can say the sage’s father’s or teacher’s name.
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