Commentary for Shabbat 38:2

ור' יוסי בר חנינא מ"ט לא אמר כרבי אלעזר אמר לך התם הוא דמעיקרא אוכל ולבסוף אוכל הכא מעיקרא אוכל והשתא משקה ור' אלעזר אמר לך הא שמעינן ליה לר' אלעזר דאפילו זיתים וענבים נמי שרי דהא כי אתא רב הושעיא מנהרדעא אתא ואייתי מתניתא בידיה זיתים וענבים שריסקן מערב שבת ויצאו מעצמן אסורין ר' אלעזר ור"ש מתירין ורבי יוסי בר חנינא ברייתא לא שמיע ליה

but here<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The case of the Mishnah, where the oil exudes from the olives, etc. ');">⁵</span> it was originally food and now a liquid.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Olives and grapes are food; oil and wine are liquid. Since it changes so much on the Sabbath, it may be that R. Eleazar forbids it. ');">⁶</span> And R. Eleazar [b. Pedath]?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Does he not admit the force of this argument? ');">⁷</span> — He can answer you: But we know R. Eleazar [b. Shammua'] to hold that even olives and grapes are also permitted. For when R. Hoshaya came from Nehardea, he came and brought a Baraitha in his hands: If olives and grapes are crushed on the eve of Sabbath and they [their juices] exude spontaneously, they are forbidden;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For drinking on the Sabbath. ');">⁸</span> R. Eleazar and R. Simeon permit it. And R. Jose b. R. Hanina? — He did not know this Baraitha.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This may also mean: he rejects the authenticity of this Baraitha, for not all Baraithas were of equal authority. ');">⁹</span>

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