Reference for Megillah 52:14
אמרו ליה רבנן לרבא והא זמנין דמטלטלי ליה כי מנח ספר תורה עלויה והוה ליה מיטלטלא מלא וריקם אי הכי לא אפשר
The rabbis said to Rava: But sometimes it is moved while a Torah scroll is on it, and thus it becomes a vessel which is moved both when full and when empty? If that is so [he said], then it is not possible.
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