Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Reference for Shevuot 67:22

יתיב רב המנונא קמיה דרב יהודה ויתיב רב יהודה וקא מיבעיא ליה מנה מניתיך בפני פלוני ופלוני

Granted, knowing without seeing is possible,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' As in the case of R. Simeon b. Shetah.');"><sup>32</sup></span> but seeing without knowing how is that possible?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If he sees one person killing another, would that be sufficient to condemn him? Would it not be necessary to know whether or not the victim e.g., suffered from a fatal disease (in which case the murderer does not pay the extreme penalty;) ? Sanh. 78a? R. Jose therefore rightly says that only in money matters is it possible to have evidence based on seeing without knowing.');"><sup>33</sup></span> Does he not need to know if he killed a heathen or a Jew,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. B.K. (Sonc. ed.) p. 253, n. 4.');"><sup>34</sup></span> if he killed a man suffering from a fatal disease or a healthy man? We may deduce that R'Jose the Galilean holds that if he adjures witnesses for a fine,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' E.g., to testify that a man had seduced his daughter, for which a fine of 50 shekels is imposed; Deut. XX, 29.');"><sup>35</sup></span> they are exempt, for if you will say they are liable, granted that knowing without seeing is possible,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' By circumstantial evidence.');"><sup>36</sup></span> but seeing without knowing - [how is that possible]? Does he not need to know if he cohabited with a heathen woman or a Jewish woman, with a virgin or with a woman who is not a virgin?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since testimony cannot be established by seeing without knowing, R. Jose must hold that when witnesses are adjured in the case of a fine, and they withhold testimony, they are exempt; for he holds that the oath of testimony is applicable only in such a case where testimony may be established by seeing without knowing, and by knowing without seeing.');"><sup>37</sup></span> R'Hamnuna sat before Rab Judah, and Rab Judah sat and enquired; [If one said;] 'A hundred zuz I counted out to you before So-and-So and So-and-So';

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