Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Talmud for Eruvin 176:19

התם מאי ניחוש לה אי משום קילקול הא מיקלקלא וקיימא אי משום גזירה שמא יאמרו צנורו של פלוני מקלח מים סתם צנורות מקלחין הן

surely, [it may be retorted,] it is any case spoilt;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' By the rains.');"><sup>47</sup></span> and if against the possibility of the assumption that So-and-so's gutter was spouting water,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' On the Sabbath: in consequence of which people might allow themselves to carry also directly from a private into a public domain.');"><sup>48</sup></span> all gutters, as a rule, spout water.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' On a rainy day. People would assume the water to be rather the accumulated rain water than the lesser quantity of waste water. In the case of a drain in the dry season, however, people observing the flow front a private into a public domain and knowing full well that it was the result of human action, might well come to the conclusion that the carrying of objects from the one domain into the other is also permitted. Hence the preventive measure.');"><sup>49</sup></span>

Jerusalem Talmud Eruvin

Rebbi Jeremiah said, Rebbi Meïr and Rebbi Eliezer ben Jacob both said the same. Rebbi Eliezer ben Jacob as we have stated: “Rebbi Eliezer ben Jacob says, on the Sabbath one may pour water into a sewer which is covered for four cubits in the public domain, but the Sages are saying, even from a roof or a courtyard 100 cubits [wide] one may not pour into the sewer.” Rebbi Meïr as it was stated: In large cities one may pour water into flows even though they are perforated, the words of Rebbi Meïr140If a river is diverted into many small currents which run in streets and through courtyards (as can be seen, e. g., in Freiburg i. B., Germany), one may pour water into them on the Sabbath since it will not be noticed.. 141The main discussion about prohibitions added because people may get a bad impression, which also includes the text here, is in Kilaim 9:2 (Notes 34–40, Eruvin problem Note 39). Rav’s opinion is accepted in the Babli (Šabbat 64b, 164b, Beṣah 9a, ˋAvodah zarah 12a) but consistently rejected in the Yerushalmi. And it was stated thus, if it was a drainpipe it is permitted; in the rainy season it is permitted142Babli 88b. The Babli holds that during the rainy season there never was any rabbinic prohibition because everything is being wet anyhow.; streaming spouts are forbidden and Bar Qappara stated, if it occurred at a hidden place it is permitted. This disagrees with Rav and he cannot explain it, since Rav said that everything forbidden because of a bad impression is forbidden even in the most private room.
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