Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Talmud for Eruvin 176:23

אלא אי איתמר הכי איתמר אמר רבא

Hence,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cf. Supra p. 617, n. 11.');"><sup>55</sup></span> said Abaye, even a kor,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Of water.');"><sup>56</sup></span> even two kor are permitted.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' 'To him' appears in cur. edd. in parenthesis and is deleted by Rashal.');"><sup>57</sup></span> SO ALSO IN THE CASE OF TWO UPPER STOREYS OPPOSITE EACH OTHER'Raba ruled: Even though they prepared a joint 'erub. What, asked Abaye,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' 'To him' appears in cur. edd. in parenthesis and is deleted by Rashal.');"><sup>57</sup></span> is the reason? If it be suggested: On account of the large quantity of the water,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Four Se'ah instead of the usual two.');"><sup>58</sup></span> was it not taught, [it may be objected,] 'The same law applies to a trough,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cf. Supra p. 617, n. 11.');"><sup>55</sup></span> a damaged vessel,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Gistera, a defective, mutilated, cracked or damaged object.');"><sup>59</sup></span> a pond or a tub, viz. that, though they were filled with water on the Sabbath eve, waste water may be poured into them on the Sabbath?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Though it overflows into the public domain. Why then should the increased volume of water be a bar to the use of the trough by the tenants of both upper storeys?');"><sup>60</sup></span> Rather, if the statement was at all made it must have been made in the following terms:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'thus it was said'.');"><sup>61</sup></span> Raba ruled:

Jerusalem Talmud Eruvin

Rebbi Jeremiah said, Rebbi Meïr and Rebbi Eliezer ben Jacob both said the same. Rebbi Eliezer ben Jacob as we have stated: “Rebbi Eliezer ben Jacob says, on the Sabbath one may pour water into a sewer which is covered for four cubits in the public domain, but the Sages are saying, even from a roof or a courtyard 100 cubits [wide] one may not pour into the sewer.” Rebbi Meïr as it was stated: In large cities one may pour water into flows even though they are perforated, the words of Rebbi Meïr140If a river is diverted into many small currents which run in streets and through courtyards (as can be seen, e. g., in Freiburg i. B., Germany), one may pour water into them on the Sabbath since it will not be noticed.. 141The main discussion about prohibitions added because people may get a bad impression, which also includes the text here, is in Kilaim 9:2 (Notes 34–40, Eruvin problem Note 39). Rav’s opinion is accepted in the Babli (Šabbat 64b, 164b, Beṣah 9a, ˋAvodah zarah 12a) but consistently rejected in the Yerushalmi. And it was stated thus, if it was a drainpipe it is permitted; in the rainy season it is permitted142Babli 88b. The Babli holds that during the rainy season there never was any rabbinic prohibition because everything is being wet anyhow.; streaming spouts are forbidden and Bar Qappara stated, if it occurred at a hidden place it is permitted. This disagrees with Rav and he cannot explain it, since Rav said that everything forbidden because of a bad impression is forbidden even in the most private room.
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