Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Talmud for Shabbat 228:8

תניא כוותיה דרבי יוחנן יוה"כ שחל להיות בשבת

Rather it is clear that it is as R. Joseph [answered]. R. Zera said in R. Huna's name — others state, R. Abba said in R. Huna's name: If the Day of Atonement falls on the Sabbath, the trimming of vegetables is forbidden. R. Mana said, It was taught likewise: How do we know that if the Day of Atonement falls on the Sabbath, the trimming of vegetables<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., cutting away those parts of vegetables which are not edible. The reference is of course to unattached vegetables. ');"><sup>21</sup></span> is forbidden? Because it is said, Sabbathon; it is a shebuth.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Ex. XVI, 23: E.V. (solemn) rest. Here it is translated as shebuth, and thus intimates such labour as trimming vegetables. ');"><sup>22</sup></span> Now, in respect of what [is it stated]: shall we say. In respect of labour<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., the word forbids actual labour, e.g. the trimming of vegetables that are still attached to the soil, supra 73b. — The discussion here treats of vegetables already cut off from the ground. ');"><sup>23</sup></span> — surely it is written, thou shalt not do any work?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Ex, XX, 9, hence sabbathon is superfluous. ');"><sup>24</sup></span> Hence it must surely refer to the trimming of vegetables;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The verse is merely a support (asmakta), the prohibition being a Rabbinical one only (Ri). ');"><sup>25</sup></span> this proves it. A. Hiyya b. Abba said in R. Johanan's name: If the Day of Atonement falls on the Sabbath, the trimming of vegetables is permitted. An objection is raised: How do we know that if the Day of Atonement falls on the Sabbath, the trimming of vegetables is forbidden? Because sabbathon is stated: it is a shebuth. In respect of what: shall we say in respect of labour, — surely it is written, 'thou shalt not do any work'? Hence it must surely refer to the trimming of vegetables! — No: in truth it refers to actual work, but [it is stated] to [show that] one violates an affirmative and a negative injunction on account thereof.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sabbathon is an affirmative command, bidding one to rest, ');"><sup>26</sup></span> It was taught in accordance with R. Johanan: If the Day of Atonement falls on the Sabbath,

Jerusalem Talmud Pesachim

On a Day of Atonemement which falls on a Sabbath may one soak pickles119Any food preserved in vinegar. and preserves120Food preserved in water after extensive cooking. starting from the time of afternoon prayers121On a regular Sabbath or holiday it is forbidden to prepare food for use after the end of the day. The exception is the Day of Atonement where one is encouraged to start preparing for the end of the fast in the late afternoon in order to minimize the time between nightfall and the evening meal, the “danger” from an extension of the fast.? Rav said, it is forbidden122Babli Šabbat 114b.; Rebbi Eleazar said, it is permitted. Rebbi Jacob bar Aḥa in the name of Rebbi Eleazar, why did they say, one may soak pickles and preserves starting from the time of afternoon prayers? Because of danger. Is there a difference between the danger on a Day of Atonement which falls on a Sabbath and a Day of Atonement which falls on a weekday123There is no reason to distinguish between Sabbath and weekday in this respect.? Rebbi Ḥanania the colleague of the rabbis124G switches the attributions between him and R. Phineas. objected, a Mishnah disagrees with Rebbi Eleazar: “On a Day of Atonemement which falls on a Sabbath, the shew-breads are distributed in the evening.125Mishnah Menaḥot11:7. The shew-breads are changed every Sabbath (Lev. 24:8); the previous week’s bread must be eaten by the Cohanim in the Temple precinct. Since the consumption of the bread is part of the Temple service (v. 9), if this cannot be prepared before the end of the Day of Atonement then certainly profane food cannot be prepared.” There is a difference. Since this is a small matter, he might forget and eat. Rebbi Phineas objected:: A baraita of Rebbi Eleazar disagrees with him. The Day of Atonemement which falls on a Sabbath is a day of rest; on a weekday it is a day of rest126Sifra Emor Pereq 14(4); Babli Šabbat114b. The Day of Atonement is called שַׁבַּ֨ת שַׁבָּת֥וֹן. The expression Šabbat refers to all activity biblically forbidden on the Sabbath; שַׁבָּת֥וֹן therefore must refer to additional restraint from permitted activity incompatible with the nature of the day. The verse does not distinguish between a Day of Atonement on a Sabbath or on a weekday.. If one is resting on a weekday, not so much more on a Sabbath? Is it not necessary that even things which you are permitted to do on a weekday you have to refrain from on a Sabbath? What would this be? This is soaking pickles and preserves127This implies that according to everybody on a Day of Atonement on a weekday one prepares for the end of the fast before the end of the day.. Rebbi Jacob bar Zavdi in the name of Rebbi Abbahu. The matter is evident for anything which is served with cold food but for anything which is served with hot food while it is heated he can trim it128Since cooking is biblically forbidden on the Sabbath and on the Day of Atonement, hot food never can be prepared before the end of the day.
The translation follows G; the text of the Leiden ms. is rather unintelligible.
. Rebbi Mana said, if you are saying so, also he will be embarrassed and will not trim; it will turn out that he will become endangered129Here ends G.. Rebbi Abba asked before Rebbi Immi: May one soak pickles and preserves starting from the time of afternoon prayers? He said to him, it is permitted. Rebbi Jacob bar Aḥa asked Rebbi Ḥiyya and Rebbi Yasa, may one soak pickles and preserves starting from the time of afternoon prayers? They said to him, it is permitted. Rebbi Zeˋira asked before Rebbi Immi, may one say to the maker of fried food130A Gentile. It is obvious that on a regular Sabbath this is forbidden. make me some fried food? He said to him, it is permitted. Make me baked goods? Permitted. Prepare me a wick? No. What is the difference between one and the other? This is food, the other is not food131In all matters not pertaining to the preparation of food, the regular Sabbath rules have to be followed..
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