Chullin 174

או בדם החיה רואין אותו כאילו הן מים

OR WITH THE BLOOD OF A WILD ANIMAL,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Either the blood of a wild animal which had been obtained by the opening of a vein (Rashi) or the blood of a forbidden wild animal (Maim.) .');">¹</span>

רבי יהודה אומר

IT IS TO BE REGARDED AS THOUGH IT WAS WATER'R'JUDAH SAYS, BLOOD CANNOT NEUTRALIZE BLOOD.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Even if there was only the minutest quantity of the blood of a wild animal mixed with the blood of cattle, the former is not neutralized nor loses its identity in the mixture, but the whole mixture must be covered up; for R. Judah is of the opinion that in a mixture of like kinds one element can never neutralize the other, no matter in what proportion they are to each other.');">²</span>

אין דם מבטל דם

THE BLOOD WHICH SPURTED OUT AND THAT WHICH IS UPON THE KNIFE MUST ALSO BE COVERED UP.

דם הניתז ושעל הסכין חייב לכסות

R'JUDAH SAYS, WHEN IS THIS THE CASE?

אמר רבי יהודה

WHEN THERE IS NO OTHER BLOOD BUT THAT; BUT WHEN THERE IS OTHER BLOOD BESIDES THIS, IT NEED NOT BE COVERED UP.

אימתי

<big><b>GEMARA: </b></big>We have learnt elsewhere:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Zeb. 87b.');">³</span>

בזמן שאין שם דם אלא הוא אבל יש שם דם שלא הוא פטור מלכסות:

If the blood [of a sacrifice] became mixed with water and it still ha the colour of blood, it is valid.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For sprinkling upon the altar.');">⁴</span>

<big><strong>גמ׳</strong></big> תנן התם

If it became mixed with wine, it must be regarded as though it was water.

דם שנתערב במים אם יש בו מראית דם כשר

If it became mixed with the blood of [unconsecrated] cattle or of a wild animal, it must be regarded as though it was water.

נתערב ביין רואין אותו כאילו הוא מים

R'Judah says: Blood cannot neutralize blood.

נתערב בדם בהמה או בדם החיה רואין אותו כאילו הוא מים

R'Hiyya said in the name of R'Johanan: This ruling<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That in a mixture of blood and water, if the appearance of the whole is like blood it is valid.');">⁵</span>

רבי יהודה אומר

applies only to the case where the water fell into the blood,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For then each drop of water as it falls into the blood becomes neutralized and is lost; and only when so much water falls into the blood so that the whole mixture assumes the appearance of water is it rendered invalid.');">⁶</span>

אין דם מבטל דם

but where the blood fell into the water each drop became neutralized [as it fell into the water].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And even if there fell into the water so large a quantity of blood as to give to the whole the appearance of blood, it is unfit for its purpose; for as each drop fell into the water it became neutralized and immediately lost its validity for the purposes of ritual sprinkling, and it cannot regain it even though the whole mixture has the colour of blood.');">⁷</span>

א"ר חייא בר אבא אמר ר' יוחנן

R'Papa said: But it is not so with regard to the law of 'covering up', for the law of disability does not apply to precepts.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The obligation of 'covering up' was only suspended but not discharged, consequently if the whole has the appearance of blood the obligation attaches to it.');">⁸</span>

לא שנו אלא שנפלו מים לתוך דם אבל נפל דם לתוך מים ראשון ראשון בטל

Rab Judah said in the name of Samuel: As long as it<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Blood which was mixed with water.');">⁹</span>

אמר רב פפא

is of a reddish colour it makes atonement,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' When sprinkled upon the altar,');">¹⁰</span>

ולענין כסוי אינו כן אין דחוי אצל מצות

it renders susceptible to uncleanness,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., if it fell upon foodstuffs; cf. Lev. XI, 38.');">¹¹</span>

אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל

and it must be covered up.

כל מראה אדמומית מכפרין ומכשירין וחייבין בכסוי

What does he teach us?

מאי קמשמע לן

We have learnt it with regard to its validity for atonement and we have also learnt it with regard to the obligation of covering up'! - The statement that it renders susceptible to uncleanness, was necessary.

מכפרין תנינא חייבין בכסוי תנינא

But even that statement [is unnecessary], for if it is blood it renders susceptible to uncleanness, and if it is water it renders susceptibl to uncleanness! - It was only necessary to be stated for the case where it [the blood] was mixed with rain water.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'the tamad (the mixture of water and lees) was made with rain water', a phrase from the argument in B.B. 97a. Rain water cannot render foodstuffs susceptible to uncleanness except where it was intended for some purpose or use, a reservation which does not apply to blood.');">¹²</span>

כשירין איצטריכא ליה

But even in the case of rain water since it was collected [in a vessel] and poured [into the blood] it was surely intended for the purpose! - It was necessary only in the case where they were mixed without human effort.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. the blood and the rain water. In this case, therefore, as the rain water by itself cannot render susceptible to uncleanness, only if the mixture has the colour of blood will it render susceptible to uncleanness.');">¹³</span>

מכשירין נמי אי דם אכשורי מכשר אי מיא אכשורי מכשרי

R'Assi of Neharbel<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Nehar Bil, east of Bagdad. t,kkm');">¹⁴</span>

לא צריכא שתמדו במי גשמים

says.

מי גשמים נמי כיון דשקיל ורמי אחשבינהו

It refers to the thin blood.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' When blood congeals there settles at the base a clear watery liquid. This liquid will only render susceptible to uncleanness if it has the colour of blood.');">¹⁵</span>

לא צריכא שנתמדו מאליהן

R'Jeremiah of Difti said: He<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Who eats of this thin blood.');">¹⁶</span>

ר' אסי מנהרביל אומר

incurs the penalty of Kareth, but only if there was an olive's bulk.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Of normal blood in addition to this clear blood. So Rashi and Tosaf. The statement however is strangely expressed for the net result is that for drinking this thin watery blood by itself one does not incur the penalty of Kareth. V. Torath Hayyim a.l.; also Responsa of Hatham Sofer, Yoreh Deah 70.');">¹⁷</span>

בצללתא דדמא

In a Baraitha it was taught: It<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. this thin watery blood if it issued from a corpse.');">¹⁸</span>

רבי ירמיה מדפתי אמר

renders unclean [men and vessels that are] in the tent, but only if there was a quarter [log].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cf. n. 4.');">¹⁹</span>

ענוש כרת והוא דאיכא כזית

We have learnt elsewhere:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This is no Mishnah although it is introduced by the usual Mishnaic expression in. It is found in Tosef. Ohol. IV, and Tosaf. Maksh. III.');">²⁰</span>

במתניתא תנא

All liquids<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' E.g., tears and the milk from a woman's breast.');">²¹</span>

מטמאים באהל והוא דאיכא רביעית

that issue from a corpse are clean excepting blood.

תנן התם

As long as it<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. this thin watery blood if it issued from a corpse.');">¹⁸</span>

כל משקה המת טהורין חוץ מדמו

has a reddish colour it will render unclean [men and vessels that are] in the tent.

וכל מראה אדמומית שבו מטמאין באהל

[Do you say then that] the liquids that issue from a corpse are clean?

ומשקה המת טהורין

But I can point out a contradiction, for we have learnt:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' T.Y. II, 1.');">²²</span>

ורמינהו

The liquids that issue from a tebul yom<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A person who has immersed himself in a mikweh in the daytime but technically does not become clean until after sunset. He is regarded as unclean in the second degree.');">²³</span>

משקה טבול יום (משקין היוצאין ממנו) כמשקין שנוגע בהן

are like the liquids which he touches: