Chullin 224

ומשפייה

and to pour off [the fat].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The effect of the salt is to draw the blood together so as to settle at the base of the vessel, leaving the fat on top; the fat can then very easily be poured off into another vessel, and it may be eaten.');">¹</span>

אמר ליה רב אחא בריה דרב איקא לרב אשי

But did Samuel really say so?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That once the redness of the meat has gone no more blood will exude from it.');">²</span>

ומי אמר שמואל הכי

Has not Samuel stated that a loaf [of bread] upon which one cut [roast] meat may not be eaten?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Because of the blood which has exuded from the roast meat.');">³</span>

והאמר שמואל ככר שחתך עליה בשר אסור לאכלה

- It is different in that case for it [the blood] exudes only b reason of the pressure of the knife.

שאני התם דאגב דוחקא דסכינא פליט

R'Nahman said: If fish and fowl were salted together, they<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., the fish, for the blood that is exuded from the fowl will be absorbed by the fish.');">⁴</span>

אמר רב נחמן

are forbidden.

דגים ועופות שמלחן זה עם זה אסורין

What are the circumstances here?

היכי דמי

If the vessel [in which they were salted] was not perforated<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' It is forbidden to salt meat in a vessel that is not perforated. V. infra 113a.');">⁵</span>

אי בכלי שאינו מנוקב אפי' עופות ועופות נמי אסירי

then fowl with other fowl would also be forbidden, and if the vessel was perforated then even fish with fowl should be permitted? - Indeed the vessel was perforated, but fish, having a soft skin, very quickly exude [their juice], whereas fowl are constricted and exude [blood] long after the fish have ceased to do so, so that the latter will absorb from [the fowl].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' On the other hand meat with other meat may very well be salted together, for each piece will take an equal length of time to exude the blood and so long as it exudes it will not absorb.');">⁶</span>

אי בכלי מנוקב אפי' דגים ועופות נמי שרי

It happened to R'Mari B'Rahel that ritually slaughtered meat had been salted with trefah meat.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In a perforated vessel.');">⁷</span>

לעולם בכלי מנוקב ודגים משום דרפו קרמייהו קדמי ופלטי ועופות קמיטי בתר דניחי דגים פליטי עופות והדר בלעי מיניה

He came before Raba who sa<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Because of the blood which has exuded from the roast meat.');">³</span>

רב מרי בר רחל אימלח ליה בשר שחוטה בהדי בשר טרפה אתא לקמיה דרבא אמר ליה

d to him, It is written: The unclean,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lev. XI, 31: These are the unclean unto you among all that creep. It is apparent that the definite article before 'unclean' is superfluous.');">⁸</span>

(ויקרא יא, כו) הטמאים לאסור צירן ורוטבן וקיפה שלהן

to signify that the juice and the broth and the sediment of these [which are unclean] are forbidden.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And therefore in the case of the trefah meat being salted with ritually slaughtered meat, whilst it is true that one will not absorb blood from the other because each is discharging it, each will however absorb the juice from the other, so that the ritually slaughtered meat would be rendered forbidden on account of the juice of the other.');">⁹</span>