Makkot 33
מאי לאו בהא קא מיפלגי דמר סבר ודאי טובלו ומר סבר ודאי אינו טובלו אמר ליה אביי אי הכי אדמיפלגי בספיקו ליפלגו בודאי
is it not that in this facet they are arguing, that one holds [produce is still] considered tevel [i.e. untithed, until maser ani is removed as well]. And the other one holds [maser ani] does not render the produce tevel. Abaye said to him. If so [that they argue about whether maser ani can render the produce tevel], then rather than arguing in a case of questionable produce [demai] they should argue in a case where it was known [that maser ani] was not separated.
אלא דכולי עלמא ודאי טובלו והכא בהא קא מיפלגי מר סבר לא נחשדו עמי הארץ על מעשר עני של דמאי כיון דממונא הוא אפרושי מפריש ורבנן סברי כיון דטריחא ליה מילתא לא מפריש:
Rather, everyone holds that [failing to separate maser ani] renders produce tevel. But here it is in this that thay argue. One opinion holds the people of the land are not suspect regarding maser ani of demai, that since it is only a monetary matter, they will certainly separate it. But the sages hold that since the matter is a bother they do not separate.
כמה יאכל מן הטבל וכו': אמר רב ביבי אמר רבי שמעון בן לקיש מחלוקת בחטה אבל בקמח דברי הכל כזית ורבי ירמיה אמר רבי שמעון בן לקיש כמחלוקת בזו כך מחלוקת בזו
How much must one eat from tevel to be liable? etc.: Rav Bibi said in the name of Rebbi Shimon ben Lakash, The dispute only concerns wheat kernels, but with regard to flour everyone agrees that the minimum is a k'zias [an olive's volume]. But Rebbi Yirmiya said in the name of Rebbi Shimon ben Lakash, just as there is a dispute by this [wheat], so is there a dispute by this [flour].
תנן אמר להם ר' שמעון אי אתם מודים לי באוכל נמלה כל שהוא שהוא חייב אמרו לו מפני שהיא כברייתה אמר להן אף חטה אחת כברייתה חטה אין קמח לא
[We can bring a proof to Rav Bibi's understanding of the disput to only concern wheat kernels from what] was taught in a mishna. Rebbe Shimon said to them [the sages], will you not [at least] agree with me [in the case of] where one consumes an ant of any size that he would be liable to malkus? The sages responded to him that is because [an ant] is in the form in which it was created. Rebbi Shimon said back to them, Even a single [kernel of] wheat is in the form that it was created. [This implies that Rebbi Shimon would hold only that by a] wheat [kernel] one is [liable for less then a k'zias], but not by flour.
לדבריהם קאמר להו לדידי אפילו קמח נמי אלא לדידכו אודו לי מיהת דחטה אחת כברייתה ורבנן בריית נשמה חשובה חטה לא חשובה תניא כותיה דרבי ירמיה רבי שמעון אומר כל שהוא למכות לא אמרו כזית אלא לענין קרבן:
[No,] he was just saying an answer according to their words, according to me, even flour also one is liable for, but even according to your opinion, agree to me at least that one wheat kernel is in the form that it was created. And [what would] the sages [answer to that]? A living soul is significant, but a wheat kernel is not significant. A baraisa was taught in accordance with Rebbi Yirmiya's view. Rebbi Shimon says any amount [makes one liable] to malkus. The measurement of a k'zias was only stated regarding making one obligated to bring a sacrifice.
מתני' האוכל בכורים עד שלא קרא עליהם קדשי קדשים חוץ לקלעים קדשים קלים ומעשר שני חוץ לחומה השובר את העצם בפסח הטהור ה"ז לוקה ארבעים אבל המותיר בטהור והשובר בטמא אינו לוקה ארבעים
MISHNA: One who eats bikorim [first fruits] before the verses are recited; [or eats] kadshai kadshim [offerings of greater sanctity] outside the curtain [of the temple courtyard; or one who eats] kadshai kalim [offerings of lesser sanctity] or maiser sheni outside the wall [of Jerusalem]; or one who breaks the bone of a pure Pesach offering. All of these incur forty lashes. But one who leaves over from [even a tahor i.e. a pure] offering, or one who breaks a bone of a tamai [impure] offering does not incur malkus.
הנוטל אם על הבנים רבי יהודה אומר לוקה ואינו משלח וחכמים אומרים משלח ואינו לוקה זה הכלל כל מצות לא תעשה שיש בה קום עשה אין חייבין עליה:
[Regarding] one who takes a mother bird while on her young, Rebbi Yehuda says he incurs malkus, and need not send her away, but the sages say that he must send her away and does not receive malkus. This is the general rule, any prohibition that has an active positive commandment [to remedy it] does not make one liable to malkus.
<big><strong>גמ׳</strong></big> אמר רבה בר בר חנה א"ר יוחנן זו דברי רבי עקיבא סתימתאה אבל חכמים אומרים בכורים הנחה מעכבת בהן קריאה אין מעכבת בהן
GEMARA: Rabah bar bar Channa said in the name of Rebbi Yochanon, these are the words of Rebbi Akiva, the unnamed authority. The sages, however, say that regarding bikorim, their placement is essential to them, but the recital [or their verses] is not essential to them.
ולימא זו דברי רבי שמעון סתימתאה הא קא משמע לן דרבי עקיבא כרבי שמעון סבירא ליה
But lets say that these are the words of Rebbi Shimon, [and that he is] the unnamed authority, [which would be collaborated by a baraisa]? This is what he is saying, that Rebbi Akiva holds like Rebbi Shimon.
אמר רבי שמעון מה בא זה ללמדנו אם לאוכלן חוץ לחומה קל וחומר ממעשר הקל ומה מעשר הקל אוכלן חוץ לחומה לוקה בכורים לא כל שכן הא לא בא הכתוב אלא לאוכל מבכורים עד שלא קרא עליהן שהוא לוקה
Rebbi Shimon said, What is this verse coming to teach us? If to [make one liable for eating bikorim] outside the wall [of Jerusalem, then we could have just learned it out from] a kal v'chomer from maiser, which is more lenient, that if one incurs malkus by eating the more lenient example of maiser outside of the wall, then wouldn't one certainly incur malkus for eating bikorim outside of the wall? Rather the Torah only comes to teach us that one who eats bikorim before the verses are recited incurs malkus.
(דברים יב, יז) ונדבותיך זו תודה ושלמים אמר רבי שמעון מה בא זה ללמדנו אם לאוכלן חוץ לחומה קל וחומר ממעשר הא לא בא הכתוב אלא לאוכל בתודה ובשלמים לפני זריקה שהוא לוקה
(Deutermany 12, 17) "and your voluntary gifts", this refers to the Todah and Sh'lamim offerings. Rebbi Shimon said, What is this verse coming to teach us? If to [make one liable for eating them] outside the wall [of Jerusalem, then we could have just learned it out from] a kal v'chomer from maiser, rather the Torah only comes to teach us that one who eats from the Todah or the Sh'lamim before the z'rika [the sprinkling of the blood] incurs malkus.
(דברים יב, יז) ובכורות זה הבכור אמר ר' שמעון מה בא זה ללמדנו אם לאוכלן חוץ לחומה ק"ו ממעשר אם לפני זריקה ק"ו מתודה ושלמים הא לא בא הכתוב אלא לאוכל מן הבכור אפי' לאחר זריקה שהוא לוקה
(Deutermany 12, 17) "And your firstborn", this refers to a Bechor offering. Rebbi Shimon said, What is this verse coming to teach us? If to [make one liable for eating them] outside the wall [of Jerusalem], [then we could have just learned it out from] a kal v'chomer from maiser; if to [make one liable for eating them] before the z'rika, [then we could have just learned it out from] a kal v'chomer from Todah and Sh'lamim, rather the Torah only comes to teach us that one who eats from a Bechor even after the z'rika incurs malkus.
אם לאוכלן חוץ לחומה קל וחומר ממעשר אם לפני זריקה קל וחומר מתודה ושלמים אם לאחר זריקה קל וחומר מבכור הא לא בא הכתוב אלא לאוכל מחטאת ואשם אפילו לאחר זריקה חוץ לקלעים שהוא לוקה
If to [make one liable for eating them] outside the wall [of Jerusalem], [then we could have just learned it out from] a kal v'chomer from maiser; if to [make one liable for eating them] before the z'rika, [then we could have just learned it out from] a kal v'chomer from Todah and Sh'lamim; if to [make one liable for eating them] after the z'rika, [then we could have just learned it out from] a kal v'chomer from Bechor, rather the Torah only comes to teach us that one who eats from a Chatos or an Asham even after the z'rika, but outside of the [Temple] curtains incurs malkus.
אם לאוכלן חוץ לחומה ק"ו ממעשר אם לפני זריקה קל וחומר מתודה ושלמים אם לאחר זריקה ק"ו מבכור אם חוץ לקלעים קל וחומר מחטאת ואשם הא לא בא הכתוב
If to [make one liable for eating them] outside the wall [of Jerusalem], [then we could have just learned it out from] a kal v'chomer from maiser; if to [make one liable for eating them] before the z'rika, [then we could have just learned it out from] a kal v'chomer from Todah and Sh'lamim; if to [make one liable for eating them] after the z'rika, [then we could have just learned it out from] a kal v'chomer from Bechor; if to [make one liable for eating them] outside the [Temple] curtain, [then we could have just learned it out from] a kal v'chomer from Chatos and Asham rather the Torah comes