Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Niddah 50

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וטורדין אותו אלא בודקין אותו בשמן שהשמן רך ומצחצחו

and disturbs its shape. It must rather be examined in oil because oil is mild and makes it clear. Furthermore, it must be examined in sunlight only. How is it to be examined? 'How is it to be examined' [you ask]! Of course as has just been described. — Rather, wherewith is it to be examined in order to ascertain whether it was male or female? — Abba Saul b. Nashor, as others say, Abba Saul b. Ramash replied: One brings a splinter with a smooth top and moves it [in an upward direction] in that place.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Euphemism. ');"><sup>1</sup></span>

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ואין רואין אלא בחמה

If it is caught it will be known that the foetus is a male,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The obstruction being attributed to the membrum. ');"><sup>2</sup></span>

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כיצד בודקין אותו

and if not it will be known to be a female. R. Nahman citing Rabbah b. Abbuha stated: This<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The splinter test. ');"><sup>3</sup></span>

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כיצד בודקין אותו

was learnt only of a movement in an upward direction,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The obstruction being attributed to the membrum. ');"><sup>2</sup></span>

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כדאמרינן

but if sideways [it is no reliable test, since] it may be assumed [that the obstruction] was caused by the sides of the womb. R. Adda b. Ahaba stated: A Tanna taught, If the foetus was a female the organ has the appearance of the [longitudinal] slit of a barley grain.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cf. the reading supra 25a, ad fin. The latter reading adds 'slit' which is wanting in the original of the former. ');"><sup>4</sup></span>

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אלא במה בודקין אותו לידע אם זכר הוא אם נקבה היא

R. Nahman demurred: Is it not possible that it<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The presumed female organ. ');"><sup>5</sup></span>

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אבא שאול בר נש ואמרי לה אבא שאול בר רמש אומר

is merely the depression between<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'thread of'. ');"><sup>6</sup></span>

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מביא קיסם שראשו חלק ומנענע באותו מקום

the testes? — Abaye replied: Since the testes themselves are indistinguishable, would the depression between them be distinguishable?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Obviously not. ');"><sup>7</sup></span>

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אם מסכסך בידוע שזכר הוא ואם לאו בידוע שנקבה היא

R. Amram stated: A Tanna taught, 'Its<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Referring to the foetus in its early stages. ');"><sup>8</sup></span>

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10

א"ר נחמן אמר רבה בר אבוה ל"ש אלא מלמטה למעלה אבל מן הצדדין אימא

two thighs are like two silk threads', and in connection with this R. Amram explained: Like those of the woof;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The threads of the woof are thicker than those of the warp. ');"><sup>9</sup></span>

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כותלי בית הרחם נינהו

'and its two arms are like two threads of silk', in connection with which R. Amram explained: Like those of the warp.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The threads of the woof are thicker than those of the warp. ');"><sup>9</sup></span>

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12

א"ר אדא בר אהבה

Samuel said to Rab Judah: Shinena,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Keen witted (rt. [H] 'to sharpen'); long-toothed ([H], 'tooth'): or man of iron. ');"><sup>10</sup></span>

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13

תנא אם היתה נקבה נדונה כשעורה סדוקה

give no practical decision [on the validity of a birth] unless the embryo has hair [on its head]. But could Samuel have said such a thing, seeing that he ruled, 'In either case must she consider the possibility of a valid birth'? — R. Ammi b. Samuel replied: This was explained to me by the Master Samuel: She must indeed take into consideration the possibility of a valid birth;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Sc. to remain unclean for fourteen days. ');"><sup>11</sup></span>

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14

מתקיף לה ר"נ

but she is not allowed the privilege of the clean days<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' After the conclusion of the unclean ones. ');"><sup>12</sup></span>

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ודילמא חוט של ביצים נינהו

unless the embryo had hair [on its head]. This then implies that Samuel was doubtful on the point.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The stages in the development of a foetus. ');"><sup>13</sup></span>

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16

אמר אביי

But is it not a fact that when a certain sac was submitted to the Master Samuel he said, 'This is forty-one days old', but on calculating the time since the woman had gone to perform her ritual immersion<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Following the conclusion of her menstrual period. ');"><sup>14</sup></span>

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השתא ביצים גופייהו לא ידיעי חוט של ביצים ידיע

until that day and finding that there were no more than forty days he declared, 'This man<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The husband of the woman. ');"><sup>15</sup></span>

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18

א"ר עמרם תנא

must have had marital intercourse during her menstrual period' and having been arrested<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'he bound him'. ');"><sup>16</sup></span>

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ב' ירכותיו כב' חוטין של זהורית

he confessed?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' An incident which shows Samuel's remarkable and accurate knowledge of the nature of a foetus. ');"><sup>17</sup></span>

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וא"ר עמרם עלה

— Samuel was different from other people because his knowledge was exceptional.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'because his strength is great'. Other people, however, whose physiological knowledge is not so great must adopt a cautious course and take into consideration the possibility suggested. ');"><sup>18</sup></span>

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21

כשל ערב

IF SHE ABORTED A SANDAL etc. Our Rabbis taught: A sandal is like a sea-fish [of the same name].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cf. Rashi. ');"><sup>19</sup></span>

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ושני זרועותיו כב' חוטין של זהורית וא"ר עמרם עלה

At first it is a normal foetus but later it is crushed. R. Simeon b. Gamaliel said: A sandal resembles the tongue of a big ox. In the name of our Masters it was testified: A sandal<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If it is to be deemed a valid birth. ');"><sup>20</sup></span>

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23

כשל שתי

must have the facial features.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Tosef. Nid. IV. ');"><sup>21</sup></span>

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א"ל שמואל לרב יהודה

Rab Judah citing Samuel stated: The <i>halachah</i> is that a sandal<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If it is to be deemed a valid birth. ');"><sup>20</sup></span>

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שיננא לא תעביד עובדא עד שישעיר

must have the facial features. R. Adda citing R. Joseph who had it from R. Isaac ruled: A sandal<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If it is to be deemed a valid birth. ');"><sup>20</sup></span>

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ומי אמר שמואל הכי

must have the facial features even if only at the back, this being a case similar to that of a man who slapped his fellow and caused his face to turn backwards.

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והאמר שמואל

In the days of R. Jannai it was desired to declare [the mother of] a sandal that had no facial features as clean.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Regarding it as no valid birth. ');"><sup>22</sup></span>

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28

אחת זו ואחת זו חוששת

Said R. Jannai to them: You would declare [the mother of newly born] children<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A sandal being regarded as a valid birth. ');"><sup>23</sup></span>

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29

אמר רב אמי בר שמואל לדידי מפרשא לי מיניה דמר שמואל

as clean!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Contrary to Pentateuchal law. ');"><sup>24</sup></span>

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לחוש חוששת ימי טהרה לא יהבינן לה עד שישעיר

— But was it not taught, 'In the name of our Masters it was testified: A sandal<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If it is to be deemed a valid birth. ');"><sup>25</sup></span>

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למימרא דמספקא ליה לשמואל

must have the facial features'?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Tosef. Nid. IV. ');"><sup>26</sup></span>

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והא ההוא שפירא דאתאי לקמיה דמר שמואל

— R. Bibi b. Abaye citing R. Johanan replied: It was on the evidence of R. Nehunya<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' An individual authority. ');"><sup>27</sup></span>

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אמר

that this ruling<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'teaching', the ruling that a sandal that is to be deemed a valid birth must have the facial features. ');"><sup>28</sup></span>

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34

הא בר ארבעין וחד יומא וחשיב מיומא דאזלא לטבילה עד ההוא יומא ולא הוה אלא ארבעין יומין ואמר להו

was learnt.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Hence (cf. prev. n. but one) it may well be disregarded. ');"><sup>29</sup></span>

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האי בנדה בעל

R. Ze'ira observed: R. Bibi was lucky [to be the first] with his reported traditions, for both I and he were sitting in the presence of R. Johanan when he discoursed upon this tradition, but he<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' R. Bebai. ');"><sup>30</sup></span>

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36

כפתיה ואודי

forestalled me and, reporting it first, gained the advantage.

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37

שאני שמואל דרב גובריה

Why was a sandal<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The law that it causes a woman's uncleanness (cf. our Mishnah). ');"><sup>31</sup></span>

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המפלת סנדל וכו'

at all mentioned, seeing that there can be no birth of a sandal without that of an embryo with it?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So that the woman would be unclean even in the absence of a sandal. ');"><sup>32</sup></span>

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ת"ר סנדל דומה לדג של ים מתחלתו ולד הוא אלא שנרצף

— If a female child were to be born with it this would be so indeed,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' There would have been no necessity at all to mention the sandal (cf. prev. n. but one), since it could add no uncleanness, whatever its sex: If it is a female it would subject the woman to the very same uncleanness as the female that was born with it, and if it is a male, the period of uncleanness it causes is a lesser one than that of the female. ');"><sup>33</sup></span>

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רשב"ג אומר

but here we are dealing with one with which a male was born.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So that if the sandal were a female the period of the woman's uncleanness would extend over a longer period. ');"><sup>34</sup></span>

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סנדל דומה ללשון של שור הגדול

As it might have been presumed that, since R. Isaac b. Ammi stated, 'If the woman is first to emit the semen she bears a male child and if the male is first to do it she bears a female child', the one<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The sandal. ');"><sup>35</sup></span>

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משום רבותינו העידו

is a male as well as the other is a male,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In consequence of which the woman's uncleanness would be that of a male birth only. ');"><sup>36</sup></span>

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סנדל צריך צורת פנים

hence we were informed [that no such assumption is made, for] it might equally be assumed that both emitted their semen simultaneously so that one might be a male while the other<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The sandal. ');"><sup>35</sup></span>

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א"ר יהודה אמר שמואל

is a female.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Hence the law of the sandal which imposes the restrictions of a female birth (fourteen unclean days instead of seven) as well as those of a male birth (thirty-three days of cleanness instead of sixty-six). ');"><sup>37</sup></span>

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הלכה סנדל צריך צורת פנים ...

Another explanation:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which justifies the necessity for the law of sandal even where a female was born. ');"><sup>38</sup></span>

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א"ר אדא א"ר יוסף א"ר יצחק

[Sandal<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The law that it causes a woman's uncleanness (cf. our Mishnah). ');"><sup>39</sup></span>

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סנדל צריך צורת פנים ואפי' מאחוריו

was mentioned] in order that if a woman bore a female child before sunset and a sandal after sunset<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The day concluding at sunset, when another day begins, and the sandal being thus born a day later than the female child. ');"><sup>40</sup></span>

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משל לאדם שסטר את חבירו והחזיר פניו לאחוריו

she must count the beginning of her period of menstruation in accordance with the first birth and in accordance with the second birth.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., the restrictions of both are imposed upon her: As the sandal might be a male the eighty-first day from the female birth (if there was a discharge) is regarded as the first day of menstruation though that day is still the eightieth from the sandal's birth which in the case of a female is one (the last) of the clean days. The seventh day after the eightieth again is not regarded as the termination of the seven days of menstruation (which began on the eightieth day) since it is possible that the sandal was a female whose eightieth day coincided with the eighty-first of the female child and in accordance with which the woman's seven days of menstruation began a day later (the eighty-second day after the first birth) and consequently terminated a day later. ');"><sup>41</sup></span>

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בימי רבי ינאי בקשו לטהר את הסנדל שאין לו צורת פנים אמר להם ר' ינאי

As regards the sandal that we learnt

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טיהרתם את הוולדות

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והתניא משום רבותינו העידו

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סנדל צריך צורת פנים אמר רב ביבי בר אביי אמר רבי יוחנן

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מעדותו של רבי נחוניא נשנית משנה זו

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אמר רבי זעירא

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זכה בה רב ביבי בשמעתיה דאנא והוא הוינא יתבינן קמיה דרבי יוחנן כי אמרה להא שמעתא וקדם איהו ואמר וזכה בה

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למה הזכירו סנדל והלא אין סנדל שאין עמו ולד

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אי דאתילידא נקבה בהדיה ה"נ הכא במאי עסקינן דאתיליד זכר בהדיה

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מהו דתימא הואיל ואמר רב יצחק בר אמי

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אשה מזרעת תחילה יולדת זכר איש מזריע תחלה יולדת נקבה מדהא זכר הא נמי זכר קמ"ל

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אימא שניהם הזריעו בבת אחת האי זכר והאי נקבה

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דבר אחר

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שאם תלד נקבה לפני שקיעת החמה וסנדל לאחר שקיעת החמה מונה תחלת נדה לראשון ותחלת נדה לאחרון

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סנדל דתנן

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