Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Commentary for Kiddushin 63:8

והא קעבר משום (דברים כ, יט) בל תשחית דעבד ליה בפומבייני ודילמא משום הכי לא רתח דעבד ליה בשעת ריתחיה

- Even so, the matter is humiliating [to the father]. Come and hear: R'Eliezer was asked: How far does the honour of parents [extend]? - Said he: That he should take a purse, throw it in his presence into the sea, and not shame him.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Supra 31a. There a different answer is quoted; v. 31b, in the story of R. Tarfon.');"><sup>11</sup></span>

Rashi on Kiddushin

At the seam: In the place of the stitch, such that he would not lose [any] of his money with this; such as at the hem.
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Daf Shevui to Kiddushin

Again, the Talmud wonders how R. Huna could do this—isn’t it forbidden to needlessly destroy property
The answer is that he tore the garment at the seam, so it could be resewn.
But if he tore it at the seam, then it might not have been a good test. Maybe he didn’t get angry because he saw that no harm was done.
The answer is that Rabbah was already angry about something else. Once angry, he would not notice that the tear was at the seam.
I think we can see here that the Talmud is not comfortable with R. Huna’s test of his son.
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