Chullin 219

Chapter 219

א שבשלה בחלבה אסורה דאפילו דיעבד נמי לא תנא נמי רישא שבשלה
1 was cooked with its milk it is forbidden, in which case it is not permitted even after the act, he stated in the first clause too 'if it was cooked'.
ב כי סליק רבי אלעזר אשכחיה לזעירי אמר ליה איכא תנא דאתנייה לרב כחל אחוייה לרב יצחק בר אבודימי אמר ליה אני לא שניתי לו כחל כל עיקר ורב בקעה מצא וגדר בה גדר
2 When R'Eleazar went up [to Palestine] he met Ze'iri to whom he said: Is there to be found here a Tanna<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Glos.');"><sup>1</sup></span> who recited to Rab the law of the udder?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., that it is forbidden if cooked without having been cut open.');"><sup>2</sup></span> He immediately pointed out to him R'Isaac B'Abudimi. Thereupon the latter said unto him: I did not recite to him [any prohibition] at all about the udder; Rab however found an open space and put a fence around it.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., he came to a place where the people were negligent in their religious observances and he therefore placed upon them additional restrictions.');"><sup>3</sup></span> For Rab once happened to be at Tatlefush<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In the neighbourhood of Sura; Obermeyer p. 298. tgchr');"><sup>4</sup></span>
ג דרב איקלע לטטלפוש שמעה לההיא איתתא דקאמרה לחבירתה ריבעא דבשרא כמה חלבא בעי לבשולי אמר לא גמירי דבשר בחלב אסור איעכב וקאסר להו כחלי
3 and overheard a woman asking her neighbour. How much milk is required for cooking a rib'a<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' a term describing a certain quantity of meat, cf. Bez. 29a. According to Rashi: 'a litra'. y" uh="" hbsgn');"=""><sup>5</sup></span> of meat? Said Rab: Do they not know that meat cooked with milk is forbidden? He therefore stayed there [some time] and declared the udder forbidden to them.
ד רב כהנא מתני הכי רבי יוסי בר אבא מתני אנא כחל של מניקה שניתי לו ומפלפולו של רבי חייא שנה ליה כחל סתם
4 R'Kahana reported the passage as above; but R'Jose B'Abba reported it as follows: [R'Isaac B'Abudimi said.] 'I taught him [the prohibition only] with regard to the udder of a milch [cow]'.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., without however stating so expressly as the Gemara continues to explain, v. .');"><sup>6</sup></span> And relying upon the keen perception of R'Hiyya he had stated this law in general about the udder.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Without explaining that it was only the udder of a milch cow that was forbidden. Rab however had heard this statement without making the necessary distinction. This is apparently the interpretation of this difficult passage.');"><sup>7</sup></span> Rabin and R'Isaac B'Joseph once happened to be at R'Papi's, and they were served with a dish of udder.
ה רבין ורב יצחק בר יוסף איקלעו לבי רב פפי אייתו לקמייהו תבשילא דכחל רב יצחק בר יוסף אכל רבין לא אכל אמר אביי רבין תכלא אמאי לא אכל מכדי דביתהו דרב פפי ברתיה דר' יצחק נפחא הואי ור"י נפחא מריה דעובדא הוה אי לאו דשמיע לה מבי נשא לא הוה עבדא
5 R'Isaac B'Joseph ate of it, but Rabin did not. Said Abaye: Wherefore did not this childless Rabin<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' He was bereft of his children, and therefore was always referred to sympathetically as 'the childless Rabin'; v. Pes. 70b.');"><sup>8</sup></span> eat? Consider this, R'Papi's wife was the daughter of R'Isaac Nappaha, and R'Isaac Nappaha was most strict in his actions;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'a master of (good) deeds'.');"><sup>9</sup></span> now had she not seen this practice in her parents' home she certainly would not have served them with it.
ו בסורא לא אכלי כחלי בפומבדיתא אכלי כחלי רמי בר תמרי דהוא רמי בר דיקולי מפומבדיתא איקלע לסורא במעלי יומא דכפורי אפקינהו כולי עלמא לכחלינהו שדינהו אזל איהו נקטינהו אכלינהו
6 In Sura people did not eat the udder at all, in Pumbeditha they used to eat it. Rami B'Tamri, also known as Rami B'Dikuli, of Pumbeditha once happened to be in Sura on the eve of the Day of Atonement. When the townspeople took all the udders [of the animals] and threw them away, he immediately went and collected them and ate them.
ז אייתוה לקמיה דרב חסדא אמר ליה אמאי תעביד הכי אמר ליה מאתרא דרב יהודה אנא דאכיל אמר ליה ולית לך נותנין עליו חומרי המקום שיצא משם וחומרי המקום שהלך לשם אמר ליה חוץ לתחום אכלתינהו
7 He was then brought before R'Hisda who said to him: 'Why did you do it? ' He replied: 'I come from the place of Rab Judah who permits it to be eaten.' Said R'Hisda to him: 'But do you not accept the rule:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Supra 18b. Pes. 50a.');"><sup>10</sup></span> [When a person arrives in a town] he must adopt the restrictions of the town he has left and also the restrictions of the town he has entered? ' - He replied: 'I ate them outside the [city's] boundary.' 'And with what did you roast them? ' He replied.' With the kernels [of grapes].' 'Perhaps they were [the kernels] of wine used for idolatrous purposes? ' He replied.' They had been lying there more than twelve months.'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. A.Z. 34a; kernels which had been used for idolatry, if dry i.e., after twelve months, are permitted for use.');"><sup>11</sup></span> 'Perhaps they were stolen goods? ' He replied.'
ח ובמה טויתינהו אמר ליה בפורצני ודלמא מיין נסך הויא אמר ליה לאחר שנים עשר חדש הוו
8 The owners must have certainly abandoned all rights to them for lichen was growing amongst them.' He [R'Hisda] noticed that the other was not wearing the Tefillin<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Glos.');"><sup>12</sup></span> and said to him.' Why do you not wear the Tefillin? ' He replied.' I suffer from the bowels, and Rab Judah has said. One who suffers from the bowels is exempt from wearing the Tefillin.'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For otherwise he would be constantly having to remove them in order to relieve himself.');"><sup>13</sup></span>
ט ודלמא דגזל הוה אמר ליה יאוש בעלים הוה דקדחו בהו חילפי
9 He further noticed that the other was not wearing fringes [on his coat] and said to him.' Why are you not wearing fringes? ' He replied.' The coat [l am wearing] is borrowed, and Rab Judah has said.
י חזייה דלא הוה מנח תפילין אמר ליה מאי טעמא לא מנחת תפילין אמר ליה חולי מעיין הוא ואמר רב יהודה חולי מעיין פטור מן התפילין
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יא חזייה דלא הוה קא רמי חוטי אמר ליה מאי טעמא לית לך חוטי אמר ליה טלית שאולה היא ואמר רב יהודה
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